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From: Ivan Lam[SMTP:ivanlamb@usa.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [[D90] Bumper not fitting]
> I just bought an ARB bumper for my D90 and I got it all ready to put on and
> it wont go in. The right side slides right in but the left side gets about a
> 1/2 inch away from fitting and stops. I have tried everything to fit it, but
> it won't slide in
If you're installing on a 97, it is because the two
transmission cooling lines just underneath the radiator.
You need to cut a small corner on each side as those ARB bumpers
imported to US are designed for trucks with manual transmission.
You can also ask for a cutting "instruction" (a diagram shows you
what to cut) from ARB tech support.
hope this help.
ivan
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:58:14 -0600
From: Nathan Hindman nation@flash.net
Subject: Re: [D90] Winch Bumpers
cculpo wrote:
> Another request for sources. Thought I heard
> about a "prerunner front bumper" a while
> back.Who makes it? How much? and will it hold a
> Warn 8274?
> The Off Road Shop in Dallas makes a good
> pre-runner bumber with an excellent approach
> angle, but I don't know about the compatablity
> with a 8274. I believe it's the one Chris
> Hinkle has on his, Chris?
>
> http:www.theoffroadshop.com
>
> Nathan
> 94 AAYellow D90 #1811
> 97 Discovery XD
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:30:41 -0600
From: Dave Gaboury dgaboury@GreatPlains.com
Subject: [D90] RE: Winch Bumpers
Chris,
Bob Kolander has a Warn 8274 on his ARB. He has the installation of it
documented on the Minnesota Land Rovers web site http://koly.com/mlr
Dave Gaboury
truck: 1995 Land Rover Defender #SW0027/500
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:06:57 -0800
From: Ben Mitchell ben@mitchellfamily.com
Subject: Re: [D90] Winch Bumpers
I've got a Warn 8274 shoehorned into a SafariGard bumper. It works great now that it's there, but the mount for the 8274 is completely different than the normal Warn winch mount; so it was something of a custom job from SafariGard to make it all work. I had to cut away a lot of my front grille, and a small piece of the metal frame around it to make everything fit. If I had it to do over, I would either go with the SG bumper and one of the "normal" winches it's designed to take, or I'd pick/have built a bumper that's designed to hold the 8274, rather than trying to adapt an existing design.
Don't discount the idea of having a bumper of your own design built by a local fabricator. By the time I paid for the custom work and the base SG bumper with the skid plate, I think the bumper was around $1500 - $1700 without the winch (ballpark guess - I don't have the invoices with me, and I can't recall for sure). That kind of money will go a long way at a fabricator's shop.
- -Ben
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:58:27 -0800
From: "Ho Chung" thediscoho@earthlink.net
Subject: [D90] Warn winch mount for the M8274
just received the warn catalog. and for 1999, they have a winch bumper for
D90 especially made for M8274.
here is a pic of the bumper.
http://home.earthlink.net/~thediscoho/mount1.jpg
"New for 1999, the Defender bumper readily accepts an M8274-50. It has matte
black powder coat finish and rounded edges. This bumper is also ready for
tow hooks and the optional A-bar that protect the winch from the dings of
off-road action. Installs easily."
Ho Chung
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:46:47 -0400
From: "childress, barnett" childress_barnett@emc.com
Subject: RE: [D90] Low Profile Winch
Q,
I had the Camel trophy bumper/husky winch setup. I agree it has a great look
and it was a pretty strong setup. I ended up selling the bumper to a friend
and had Greg at SG make me the first bumper to fit the Husky winch.
For the type of trails I like to do I prefer the SG setup for several
reasons:
It has a better approach angle. The winch sits up higher and the bottom
corners of the bumper are relieved instead of straight across.
SG skid plate mounts to a strong tubular frame and fits smoothly to the
bottom of the bumper. The rear of the tube mounts to the frame cross member.
This makes the hole setup much stronger than a separate bumper and skid
plate, where the plate mounts from the sides only. SG's setup works great
for sliding up steep muddy banks or inching the bumper up rock ledges before
the front tires catch.
Price. At the time anyway the Camel setup from RN was fairly expensive.
A few years ago we were on a section of trail where there was a steep down
hill rocky section. You had to squeeze between two large rocks with one tire
up onto one side at an off camber angle. Because of the rocks being wet you
would get so far and then the tire would slip and the front end would come
down on a smaller rock in between. There was no other way to get thru. I
took a hard hit on the back of the SG plate. Got a good gouge but no real
damage. A friend with the other style bumper/skid plate bent the plate up in
the middle (where there is no support) damaging his steering rod and damper.
Just my 02.
Barnett
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:38:14 -0700
From: "Bruce R. Bonar" brbonar@wenet.net
Subject: Re: [D90] bumper/brush bar
I installed a Doug Shipman "Moab" style bumper a couple of weeks ago and am
very pleased. You can see a picture of a similar bumper at:
http://www.recoverygear.com/smbdmg.html.
I've got a brush bar on mine to
mount lights, hi-lift, etc. and to offer some fender protection. It's definitely
worth a look. I haven't worked out the hi-lift attachment yet.
Bruce Bonar
94 D90 "Spot"
w/ the new "galvanized" look
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From: Shannon Holland[SMTP:holland@loser.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: (D90) rear bumper
I was very happy with my Safari Gard rear bumper until I discovered how they
performed in a higher speed impact (around 15-20mph).
I think they're excellent in terms of off road clearance and handling small
bumps into rocks, etc. But when you get a little more of an impact there,
they do a very poor job of spreading the impact. In my case, the impact (a
tree - I was not the driver :( ) was at the very end of the right rear
bumper. The rear frame member bent at the left edge of the bumperette. This
pushed in all the body panels about a foot - very, very expensive to
replace.
What I would like to see is a low profile bumper such as the Safari Gard
that covered the entire rear of the vehicle. This may have helped spread the
load of the impact in my case (of course, it may also have bent the frame).
Shannon
