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tomaco1
November 28th, 2007, 07:35 PM
I was wondering what a Warn 8000lb winch is worth, I just took it off the truck and am not sure I want to go through the trouble of putting it back, since I'll never use it. Especially if its worth enough money or trade to help my truck more. It has the remote. Probably from the late 80's.

woldd90
November 28th, 2007, 07:59 PM
If it works and looks like it was taken care of fairly well, I would guess $250.00 - $450.00 depending on condition.

Wolf Fabrication
November 29th, 2007, 06:00 AM
Post or send me a pic, I may be interested in it!

Ren Ching
November 29th, 2007, 07:24 AM
dibs! PM sent @ 6:29AM :)

I was wondering what a Warn 8000lb winch is worth, I just took it off the truck and am not sure I want to go through the trouble of putting it back, since I'll never use it. Especially if its worth enough money or trade to help my truck more. It has the remote. Probably from the late 80's.

JFD
November 29th, 2007, 07:38 AM
Just as a reference, a new Warn 8000 is 505 USD with free shipping at winchdepot.

Stmpede
November 29th, 2007, 08:37 AM
Just as a reference, a new Warn 8000 is 505 USD with free shipping at winchdepot.Yeah, you can find them for that price on Ebay as well.

Wolf Fabrication
November 29th, 2007, 03:54 PM
dibs! PM sent @ 6:29AM :)

Let's not get childish. I PM'd him last night... But if it's that important to call dibs on it, then it's yours.
:angry

Ren Ching
November 29th, 2007, 03:59 PM
No way man, it's yours. There's no backing out now. I am willing to play by my own rules :)

childish...I prefer "young at heart"

:tounge

Let's not get childish. I PM'd him last night... But if it's that important to call dibs on it, then it's yours.
:angry

JFD
November 29th, 2007, 04:04 PM
What is "dibs" ?

Wolf Fabrication
November 29th, 2007, 04:17 PM
"Dibs" is like your mom bringing out a plate of cookies and me licking all of them. It's kinda like marking your territory. In this instance, Dave licked my winch.

evilfij
November 29th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Does the winch work?

Value depends mainly on whether is an 8274 or an M8000. The upright 8274 is worth money, the normal 8000s sell for 200-400 depending on condition. If it is from the 80s 200 would be fair. 8274 is worth $400 if it runs.

Wolf Fabrication
November 29th, 2007, 04:25 PM
8274 is the best winch ever made!

Stmpede
November 29th, 2007, 06:04 PM
What is "dibs" ?Dibs (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dibs)

I particularly liked definition #2's use statement. haha

Doug Crowther
November 29th, 2007, 06:13 PM
8274's are heavier duty but upright and high profile. The clutches on an 8274 are easy access. When the ones in my m8000 bound up (because I overloaded the winch), it required that the winch come off the truck and a workbench disassembly to free them (on the low profile models they are inside the drum tube). A true PITA but forced me to service it.

evilfij
November 29th, 2007, 06:43 PM
"8274 is the best [electric] winch ever made!"

Fixed it.

rover4x4
November 29th, 2007, 07:09 PM
I thought it was the Husky.

JFD
November 29th, 2007, 07:25 PM
"Dibs" is like your mom bringing out a plate of cookies and me licking all of them. It's kinda like marking your territory. In this instance, Dave licked my winch.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Ren Ching
November 30th, 2007, 07:33 AM
Yeah and you cried about it.

"Dibs" is like your mom bringing out a plate of cookies and me licking all of them. It's kinda like marking your territory. In this instance, Dave licked my winch.

cgalpin
November 30th, 2007, 10:11 AM
Too funny.

Is a 8K winch strong enough for a D90? I thought you'd want something like 9K+?

Curious because it's on my long shopping list somewhere...But I don't want winch that's been licked ;)

charles

Ren Ching
November 30th, 2007, 11:29 AM
hey charles

i think it would be marginally ok for a more or less stock 90 with narrow tires, that isn't being used for super hardcore offroading.

its all a moot point since tomaco never replied, and I've withdrawn from any claim to it if he does decide to actually sell it.

how's the 110?



Too funny.

Is a 8K winch strong enough for a D90? I thought you'd want something like 9K+?

Curious because it's on my long shopping list somewhere...But I don't want winch that's been licked ;)

charles

Stmpede
November 30th, 2007, 04:17 PM
The port installed optional winch package for the NAS 110 used a Warn M8000 but most people felt that it was inadequate for the vehicle and people who used them a lot burned them up. Supposedly the minimum rated winch should be 1.5x the GVW according to this site (http://www.offroaders.com/tech/winches/Winch-Tech.htm).

Ren Ching
November 30th, 2007, 05:22 PM
oh yeah, definitely too small for a 110.

I was talking about a 90.

then again, you want your winch to be big enough to pull everyone else's truck out as well...


The port installed optional winch package for the NAS 110 used a Warn M8000 but most people felt that it was inadequate for the vehicle and people who used them a lot burned them up. Supposedly the minimum rated winch should be 1.5x the GVW according to this site (http://www.offroaders.com/tech/winches/Winch-Tech.htm).

Stmpede
November 30th, 2007, 06:12 PM
The 90 isn't all that much lighter weight though is it?

Ren Ching
November 30th, 2007, 08:36 PM
I dunno. Seems like it would be quite a bit lighter than a 110. But I agree it is a little on the light side. But I don't plan on bolting a bunch of heavy stuff to the truck either, rather keep it in "fighting trim."

Secretly I want an 8274. I have the old 5687 version of that and it will pull the 109 loaded for bear without much complaint. Power out would be nice though.

Truthfully I have no experience with the Warn 8000 but I suspect it would work for most situations. OTOH it only has to *not* work once...



The 90 isn't all that much lighter weight though is it?

cgalpin
December 2nd, 2007, 08:17 PM
how's the 110?

Awesome! I took her off road this weekend at Gore. She did awesome on the trails, and besides a few minor problems was trouble free. It was my first time wheeling with stick shift in the looong time, and I really liked it - feels like you have more control. She is geared better than my D90 (right now) though.

charles

tomaco1
January 13th, 2008, 08:58 PM
Hey Guys,
Just found this post again and didn't relized what i started, I still haven't found out if the winch works. I have so many other things to fix.
sorry I didn't reply.

rmuller
January 13th, 2008, 09:19 PM
1993 NAS D110;
Curb Weight: 4840 lbs. Gross Weight: 6504 lbs.

1995 NAS D90 SW;
Curb Weight: 3560 lbs. Gross Weight: 6003 lbs.

1997 NAS D90 ST;
Curb Weight: 3913 lbs. Gross Weight: 6001 lbs.

Yeah, I don't know how the ST weighs more than the SW.. but after searching, that was the information printed everywhere..

Ren Ching
January 13th, 2008, 10:51 PM
Any figures for ROW trucks? I don't want a NAS 90. Well I do but I don't have the dosh. :(


1993 NAS D110;
Curb Weight: 4840 lbs. Gross Weight: 6504 lbs.

1995 NAS D90 SW;
Curb Weight: 3560 lbs. Gross Weight: 6003 lbs.

1997 NAS D90 ST;
Curb Weight: 3913 lbs. Gross Weight: 6001 lbs.

Yeah, I don't know how the ST weighs more than the SW.. but after searching, that was the information printed everywhere..

Buckon37s
January 13th, 2008, 11:18 PM
1993 NAS D110;
Curb Weight: 4840 lbs. Gross Weight: 6504 lbs.

1995 NAS D90 SW;
Curb Weight: 3560 lbs. Gross Weight: 6003 lbs.

1997 NAS D90 ST;
Curb Weight: 3913 lbs. Gross Weight: 6001 lbs.

Yeah, I don't know how the ST weighs more than the SW.. but after searching, that was the information printed everywhere..

As mentioned in another thread, those numbers are real world low. And an 8,000 will not handle a D90. I managed to max out my 9,500 pulling a Sami with 33's! I ended up ripping of his front bumper and one side of his front axle. When a trucks gets bound up, it can draw massive force. You could probably manage to get by if you snatch blocked everything, but it's better to get the right winch up front.

rmuller
January 13th, 2008, 11:19 PM
Any figures for ROW trucks? I don't want a NAS 90. Well I do but I don't have the dosh. :(You're lucky I had a brochure still open!

Pickup:
Curb: 3902lbs. Gross: 5291lbs

Hard Top:
C: 4001lbs. G: 5291lbs

Station Wagon:
C: 4122lbs. G: 5621lbs

Those were from a 2003 publication.. not sure how much the weight varied between years..

cgalpin
January 14th, 2008, 06:34 AM
I ran Janey (ROW) over the scales at the dump, and they weighed me in a 4780lbs iirc, mostly empty (other than me @ ~220). Don't recall how much gas I had - say a half tank.

hth
charles

Ren Ching
January 17th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Buck, forgive me if it is obvious but at what point during the part ripping apart half of someone's vehicle is the winch considered maxed out?

:rofl:rofl

In all seriousness it sounds like a stronger winch would have just ripped off the bumper that much faster.

Thanks Ryan. Didn't realize the little 90's were that heavy. You guys are probably right the 8000 is a bit light. Though my old Warn 5687 is rated for 8000 and it will pull down a house. Like the 8274 it is percieved to be capable of pulling quite a bit more than 8k.


As mentioned in another thread, those numbers are real world low. And an 8,000 will not handle a D90. I managed to max out my 9,500 pulling a Sami with 33's! I ended up ripping of his front bumper and one side of his front axle. When a trucks gets bound up, it can draw massive force. You could probably manage to get by if you snatch blocked everything, but it's better to get the right winch up front.

rmuller
January 17th, 2008, 09:49 PM
I personally wouldn't have a problem with having a 8000 on my 90 for self recovery, or recovery of other 90s or Jeeps.. I have a 9000 on my D2 which is usually fully loaded down, and have been able to get out of almost everything. I'd definitely rather have an 8000lb winch than nothing...

PCRover
January 17th, 2008, 10:14 PM
I have an older Ramsey 8k on mine and it worked great pulling a bunch of trucks up some ledges at the National Rally last year. 8k is plenty big enough for a D90 in most applications IMO.

Buckon37s
January 17th, 2008, 11:27 PM
Buck, forgive me if it is obvious but at what point during the part ripping apart half of someone's vehicle is the winch considered maxed out?

:rofl:rofl

In all seriousness it sounds like a stronger winch would have just ripped off the bumper that much faster.

It was a sammy, a winch should be able to rip it in half.

Joking aside, the story was meant to show how even a very light rig can get jammed up to the point of almost taking down a 9,500. Step up and get the better winch. There are some good cheap options out there.

JSQ
January 21st, 2008, 05:47 PM
Any winch will do if you will do.