View Full Version : BFG or Goodyear MT ?
artm
October 11th, 2003, 10:56 AM
Well, I'm getting ready to purchase a set of these in 33x12.5x15 and 15x8 rims and could use some help finalizing the decision.
They're going into a '97 D90 with a Rockware/OME HD/Rancho setup. Bottom line, which is better for on road use? They're both good enough for the off road use I'll be giving them so I guess this is the deciding question.
Britt Easterly
October 11th, 2003, 04:41 PM
I had the MTR on my Disco and will never buy them again. Although they were very quiet on the road, offroad they were to soft and broke off in chunks when encoutering rocks. Just my two cents but they are are not a Northwest offroad capable tire.
:afro SOLID
Buckon37s
October 11th, 2003, 06:43 PM
Its vert funny peoples different opinions. I would say get the MTR's. i have had both and believe the Goodyear is far superior in everything but possibly mud. If you do get the MTR's go 35s they run small.
Mike Hippert
October 12th, 2003, 12:12 PM
I also have 35" MTRs they do very well in everything but mud.
comac90
October 12th, 2003, 12:47 PM
i've run 35" and 37" MTRs on my D90 and BFGs on a disco i used to have. in my experience, without question, the MTRs are a superior tire. I've run both tires on east coast trails (read: mud and loose dirt) like Tellico, etc. numerous times when living in NC and on rocks (Cruces, Moab, Iron Chest, etc) while living here in CO.
i my in experience, in ALL cases, the MTRs were superior. mine have rarely 'chunked' (no more than the BFGs did) & the sidewalls have held up better. i went thru 3 BFGs with small sidewall tears & 1 MTR with a big tear.
&, i echo Buck .... go with the 35s. they only measure a hair over 34".
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TwisteD90
October 12th, 2003, 09:20 PM
The only time I would chose BFG MT over the MTR if I'm looking to get the most life out of the tires other wise go with MTR's. I think BFG MT could last up to 60K miles with no problem where the MTR is 30K miles max.
artm
October 12th, 2003, 09:32 PM
Yeah, I think that's the deciding factor for me since the vast majority of the time the truck will be a daily driver.
TwisteD90
October 12th, 2003, 09:46 PM
Regarding the 35's don't listen to those guys :) (Take it easy on me now) Unless you have gears then 35's is the way to go. Auto with 35's and no gears is a bad idea. The transmission will keep shifting and shifting trying to find a low gear and 4th gear, what 4th gear :) If it's a manual then it's a different story.
33's is a good way to go with your setup.
artm
October 12th, 2003, 09:55 PM
No way to 35's...
A man's gotta know the limitations of his toys!
Mike Hippert
October 13th, 2003, 08:09 AM
I only got 25k out of a set of BFG MTs so I don't think the milage is that different.
Toddco
October 13th, 2003, 11:06 AM
Beef up your motor, Electic fans, Better intake, K&N, Headers, Igintion, and 2.5 " exhaust out the back. My 95 D-90 sports 37" MTR's with stock gears and 96,000 miles. On the interstate GPS-mph 75 in fith is right at 2400 RPM. This pulls fine with plenty of power to pass. 70 MPH in 4th is 3000 RPM. I get on average about 15 mpg. These motors will make some power if you free them up a little! When I blow everyone off the mountain they allways want to see whats under the hood. I do a lot of rocking crawling with these gears also. I wanted to be in the middle of drivabilty on the road (speed wise), and still go off road.
TwisteD90
October 13th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Mike, were they km or older style. I had the older style in 35X12.5X15 and I used them for 30+K miles and the previous owner had them for 15K miles and when I sold them they had 50% tread and the current owner of those tires is still using them. I know two guys here in CO, one sold his when he had 60K miles and the other is at 40K miles and they still look good.
Go to www.colorado4x4.org. There is a good discussion about how long they last vs. the MTR's, and Swampers.
I agree with Britt, mine are losing big chunks of rubber and if they keep doing that then my next tires won't be the MTR's.
BTW, check with Art Vigil, he is running BFG MT KM in 255/85/16 with similar suspension setup and his 90 looks sweet.
Mike Hippert
October 13th, 2003, 06:54 PM
They were the old ones. Not sure why the whent so fast?? They were 265 75 R16s and they were on my old Ford Ranger. I rotated them twice???? I don't know why they whent so fast???
KeithD
October 20th, 2003, 03:17 PM
Interco TrXus are probably better on road than either, and in snow - where the BFGs suck. The MTRs are a better all round traction tire - not sure if BFGs are better than TrXus in mud. The 285/75s are a bit smaller than spec, but don't know if this applies across all size ranges.
chrisvonc
October 20th, 2003, 03:34 PM
I thought my BFG 285/75 MTs were fantastic in last years snow ot on and off road. Aired them down to 30psi and was all good to go.
CVC
dmarchand
October 20th, 2003, 03:46 PM
LOL, from Mike: "I don't know why they went so fast???"...
I wonder Mike, I really wonder...
I run 285/75 MTR's. Arthur, I'll be at the Cityside Garage (Holliston, MA) event on Wednesday night, the 22nd if you want to see what they look like. They are barely 33", if that. Maybe even 32"...ugh. The MTR sizing is small across their range of sizes; 33, 35,37, etc.
I've only had a problem in with mud at 20 psi. I should have gone lower but was lazy. The sidewalls on the MTR are stiff, so you have to take them low in pressure. It must be that "durawall" construction.
I've got about 20K miles on them so far and the wear is minimal. Even with some tears from rocks. My neighbor in my garage asked me the other day if they were new tires.
I would also recommend the Interco Trxs as they seem solid on the other trucks I've seen run them.
The BFG MT's run really well in mud, as they should and seem to do good on rock. Tires are such a tough choice.
KeithD
October 22nd, 2003, 10:59 AM
Even BFG themselves don't rate their mud tire well in snow - check their web site. Unless the snow is very deep ATs can be a better bet in snow - its a matter of sipes mainly. You can always get chains, as long as you have enough clearance, and then you are laughing no matter what rubber you have - dont go over 30mph though! I got some Norwegain V chains for $100 Canadian a pair and they are awesome.
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