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grnrvrs
August 1st, 2008, 05:37 PM
On July 31, my 1983 110 cleared US Customs and I drove it home ~310 miles. Like many enthusiasts, I have had my eye on getting a 110 for quite some time. Once the earliest 110’s were eligible for legal importation (1983 model year), I began a serious search for the right vehicle. I had conflicting desires for the ‘right’ 110 for me and my family. The core requirements were diesel, 5 door, good working order, prefer LHD and prefer Tdi conversion. After a few aborted attempts to purchase a vehicle in the UK, Germany and France I found a RHD LR110 CSW with an Isuzu 4BD1-T. I proceeded to contact a UK based company regularly seen here on the D-90 Source.

The owner of the UK based export company contacted the seller and arranged for collection, while I paid via wire transfer. Once the vehicle had been collected an inspection provided an assessment of the condition which was generally pretty good, however there was rust along the B pillars and some alloy corrosion nearby. The interior was also pretty ratty. A complete set of interior seats, including front outers and 2nd row high back were ordered from Exmoor Trim. Along with new seatbelts the seats were delivered to the export company who had them installed. A new dog guard was also installed at the same time. After few weeks of delays the vehicle was loaded onto the Undine at Southampton, UK bound for Tacoma, WA. The Undine left Southampton on July 1, 2008 and was scheduled to arrive in Tacoma on July 27, after a two day delay and traveling through the Panama Canal it arrived in Tacoma on July 29.

As a part of the export process the UK based exporter was responsible for collecting the 110, arranging the shipping logistics, steam cleaning, delivery to the port and FedEx delivery of the shipping documents to my home. While the end result is that the vehicle did arrive and was cleared through customs the process was not as smooth as it should have been. There were two key problems originating with the UK based exporter. 1) Communication was poor. Feed back and response was slow and at time never occurred. While he had close to a month to ship the documents via FedEx, he chose to wait until the last moment. After three rounds of “they’ll be mailed tomorrow” sorts of responses the docs were shipped under duress and arrived on Friday July 25. 2) The 110 was supposed to be steam cleaned prior to loading at Southampton. The exporter claims to have done so, however, the USDA inspector said that my 110 was the dirtiest vehicle she had seen in years. As such the 110 was tagged by customs which resulted in a MUCH more thorough examination of the vehicle, including drug dogs, physical inspection and checking the VIN in the engine and chassis with the docs.

The US Customs folks did their job and I’m glad that they did so. The USDA tag resulted in the 110, either a) being sent back to the UK b) crushed or c) steam cleaned at the port. I choose option c and had it steam cleaned at the port. The total cost of the cleaning and associated fees was just over $400. The UK based exporter has said that he will reimburse for this expense as it should have been cleaned properly prior to export.

Interestingly, when the 110 was stored on the dock, the dock hands choose to park it in the same lot with all of the agricultural machinery as opposed to the vehicle lot. :) My wife has always said that rovers are glorified tractors.

Once the 110 had been properly cleaned the USDA inspector had to make a second inspection. Once it passed, the hold on the import was removed and I proceeded to file the paperwork with Customs. Working with US Customs was actually reasonably straightforward, after the USDA hold was removed. Being 25 years old as of July 4, 2008 it was exempt from EPA and DOT/NHTSA regulations.

Tuesday July 29
• Arrive at port
• Pay warfage fee to shipping Line, via personal check
• Confirm with US Customs that the Undine has unleaded my 110
• Told to come back on Tuesday, as the USDA inspection won’t happen until mid-day Tuesday.

Wednesday July 30
• Told that USDA inspection will be mid-afternoon
• Took the family to the Tacoma Zoo and had a wonderful time.
• Received call from the port authority, indicating that the 110 failed the USDA inspection and that I would need to sign a doc authorizing the cleaning treatment or it would have to be exported/ crushed.
• We rushed to the port and signed the paperwork authorizing the cleaning.
• Received a call from the steam cleaning contractor, who said that he cleaning fee must be paid in cash, Thursday morning at some undisclosed port location.

Thursday July 31
• 8:30 am, received a call from the steam cleaning contractor who said that his truck broke down. He hoped to get it fixed and my 110 cleaned by noon. Told to call back at 11.
• Took the family to the Point Defiance beach for a bit of water fun.
• Arrived at the port at 11:15 am and called the steam cleaning contractor who said top meet him at the 110, inside of security.
• Port security was less secure that I would have hoped, no ID check, they just waived us through. Perhaps two sleeping kids and wife in tow made us look like a low security threat.
• Arrived the 110 and the cleaning and the second USDA inspection were complete! After handing over e fist full of greenbacks, we were off to the port authority office, where they confirmed that the USDA hold had been removed.
• 11:30 am, One catch, the personal check warfage fee payment was rejected by the home office in NJ. We needed another handful of greenbacks to cover the warfage fee before we could take possession.
• On the way to an ATM, I stopped by US Customs to complete the paperwork. 10 minutes later and a personal check for 2.5% + $9 in processing and I had my Customs paperwork.
• 1:30 pm, the warfage fee was paid and I collected the 110. It started at the first half crank and purred to my great delight.
• No one looked at us or asked to see our paper work as we left the port.

With a 15 day temp tag on the back we headed to the local truck stop to fill up on diesel. With the kids and wife in the chase car a 2002 VW Passat 1.8T, I led the way from Tacoma towards I-90 and Snoqualmie pass. I lost the girls in I-5 traffic and they took almost 45 miles to catch up. I love that 4BD1-T. It kicks ass. Up the pass 75-80 mph, I burned just over ˝ tank of diesel in ~310 miles so somewhere around 28mpg (US gal) for mostly highway cruising at ~75mph.

So where does all of this leave me? Quite chuffed! While the UK based exporter has one chance to make good on his promise to reimburse for the costs associated with his failure to appropriately steam clean the 110, I am very pleased with the vehicle. If the 110 had been properly steam cleaned prior to shipment the port-side process would have been painless. There is work to be done in the sound abatement department and some rust mitigation and the B pillars will need to be replaced or extensively rebuilt. However, I love it. If you have an interest in getting a 110, do it! I would like to note that Doug (Maryland110) was quite helpful in that he provided some great pointers on how to best prepare to deal with the bureaucratic hoopla.

pendy
August 1st, 2008, 06:11 PM
Glad to hear you are happy with it!

rover4x4
August 1st, 2008, 06:42 PM
Thanks for sharing.

steinhnj
August 1st, 2008, 06:52 PM
It's great that things worked out for you Paul. The word "crushed" caused my stomach to drop, I can't imagine what your feelings were. I did have to google "chuffed" though, big words confuse me.

Hopefully mine went on the boat today and will be in Baltimore on the 11th. I second the helpful advice that Doug has provided.

My daughter is dying to go for a ride in the "left seat".

I guess I'll be the first to ask for a peek at your 110.

What transmission and xfer case do you have mated to the zoo-zoo? Did it start out as a V8?

-Neil

Abrooks
August 1st, 2008, 07:48 PM
Mine was theoretically steamed at the docks as well. Judging by the amount of hoof and mouth-ridden mud that's washed down my driveway since I got it, I'm thinking that your experience may not be unique . . .

Drove mine to work today, damn are they fun!!

130Tdi
August 1st, 2008, 07:59 PM
Paul,

Glad it worked out for you and was happy to help to the extent I could from the East Coast. Sounds like a great truck. Thanks for the unsolicited plug !

Neil,
Pauls truck was a V8 and has the lt95 in it.

ctrover
August 1st, 2008, 08:11 PM
glad to hear everything finally went well.I noticed it took you 3 days to complete the process.Im having mine shipped here next febuary.Is it possible to clear customs and be in and out on the same day?What forms do i need beside my v5 document from the uk?Im totally new to this.It will be cleaned before it comes over!!!Here a pic of my baby-she got a mazda 3.5 diesel in it and some new michelin xzl's.

grnrvrs
August 2nd, 2008, 11:06 PM
Thanks guys. As Doug indicated it has an LT95. It was a V8, but it has a heck of a lot more umph whre you need it than my old Disco. The 4 speed LT95 tranny does not bother me as much as I thought it might. RHD is an absolute kick. It took me a few hundred yards to get accustomed to it. The whole process took 3 days but could have been one day if two things had occured. 1) if it had been sufficiently steam cleaned prior to shipping it would have saved me a day. 2) if I had arrived a day after the ship arrived I would have saved a day. I was too anxious to get my 110 and arrived at the port (~300 miles away) the afternoon the ship arrived. Customs did not even know that it had docked. The officer that I worked with said to give tehm 3-5 days after the ship arrives to try to clear a vehicle.

The gist of the paper work for me was as follows:

Everyone wants to see the Arrival Notice
My Bill of Lading (BL) was electronically forwarded to the powers that be, so I never saw it and no one asked for it.
Original signed V5, not a copy for Customs
Bill of Sale, with the purchase price
Copy of the wire transfer that corroborated the Bill of Sale price ( my wire was > Bill of sale, hence I paid duty on the wire $)
US Customs provides a form for the duty
EPA 3520
NHTSA HS7

I should have some pics in a day or two. Today my 3yr old daughter and I cleaned of ~50 stickers from the glass and paint work and there are more to go.

-Paul

ctrover
August 3rd, 2008, 09:22 AM
Thanks for the advice-I have a lt95 in mine too.
So I should wait 5 days then show up in newark,nj at the port.
Forms I need I can download off internet and fill out before hand.
Have the original v5.Bill of sale.And bill of lading from shipping company.
I did money transfer by my debit card to the dealership in the uk-do think a printed copy of my bank statement will be ok?
Bring some cash for 2.5% duty.
Bring temporary plate from dmv.
Drive home in my 110.
Sweet!
Whats an "arrival notice"?

cabell
August 3rd, 2008, 03:40 PM
I increased my acreage when my 110 arrived and I pressure washed the underside.

turbodave
August 4th, 2008, 10:16 AM
Was there any questions / discussions about the engine not being an 'original fit' ??? This is a biggie I believe.

cgalpin
August 4th, 2008, 10:47 AM
Congrats Paul. I'm going to have throw in the obligatory "this thread is worthless without pics" line though :grin

ctrover
August 4th, 2008, 12:17 PM
Yes!definitely need more pics of the older 110's!

grnrvrs
August 4th, 2008, 12:25 PM
Yeah I know, its worthless as is. What do you want pics of? I'll take some pics this afternoon and post this evening.

After pulling up the rear mat, I found a heaping pile of ally corrosion between the floor and the tub supports. A new floor is being fabricated by a local shop and should be done in time to fit this weekend. I'll document it all in due time.

Dave,
For me, the non-original engine thing was a concern. As it turned out it was a non-issue. I suspect it has to due with the language of the EPA regs:

(a) 21 YEARS OLD OR OLDER EXEMPTION

The vehicle is 21 original production (OP) years old or older (OP years = the calendar year the vehicle was manufactured subtracted from the calendar year the vehicle was imported) and in original unmodified configuration.
Requirements

* Importer must file with Customs, upon entry, an EPA Form 3520-1 declaring code "E".
* Customs may require proof of vehicle age.

Restrictions

* The vehicle must be in its original unmodified configuration.
* Vehicles at least 21 years old with replacement engines are not eligible for this exemption unless they contain equivalent or newer EPA certified engines.

The last line is the relevant one for me. I have a nonequivalent but newer US spec/certified Isuzu 4BD1-T, with the EPA & CARB sticker saying that it conforms to the 1989 spec. If it had a 200Tdi or some other non-EPA certified engine it *may* have been an issue or it may have gone unnoticed.

-Paul

cgalpin
August 4th, 2008, 12:29 PM
Any and all pics. Rover porn, you know.

grnrvrs
August 5th, 2008, 03:08 PM
I'm still learning the pic posting thing, so you'll have to be satisfied with links. :)

First shots at the dock in Tacoma.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1708.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1709.jpg

After getting the 110 home and removing ~50 stickers.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1710.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1713.jpg

Inside front seats
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1714.jpg

Inside booster seat test fit
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1715.jpg

EPA & CARB conformity sticker, a really nice thing to have.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1716.jpg

Engine bay
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/IMG_1717.jpg

Follow-up Post:

The "arrival notice" was document issued by the shipping line that indicated that my truck was on the Undine bound for Tacoma and scheduled to arrive on X date. It is only available shortly before the boat arrives. My understanding was that my UK based agent contracted with Unique Forwarding Ltd int eh UK who contracted with Unsworth Transport in NJ who contracted with Wallenius Wilhelmsen to ship my 110. WW issued the Arrival Notice to Unsworth on July 24 who provided a pdf copy to me. My 110 was scheduled to arrive on the 27, but was delayed to the 29th.

Thanks for the advice-I have a lt95 in mine too.
So I should wait 5 days then show up in newark,nj at the port.
Forms I need I can download off internet and fill out before hand.
Have the original v5.Bill of sale.And bill of lading from shipping company.
I did money transfer by my debit card to the dealership in the uk-do think a printed copy of my bank statement will be ok?
Bring some cash for 2.5% duty.
Bring temporary plate from dmv.
Drive home in my 110.
Sweet!
Whats an "arrival notice"?

ctrover
August 5th, 2008, 03:23 PM
looks awesome!thanks for the pics
I have the same 4 speed and simuliar engine-how was it cruising home on the highway?

grnrvrs
August 5th, 2008, 03:55 PM
I was and still am incredibly surprised and pleased by the power/performance and economy of my 110 with the Isuzu 4BD1-T and LT95. I don't yet know the high range gear ratio stock 110@1.34, RR@1.11 or Aussie spec 110 4BD1T@.996. On the way out of the Seattle area, through interstate traffic and up Snoqualmie pass, I was cruising at ~75 +/-5 depending upon traffic i.e. at or slightly above the average vehicles speed. It had more umph than I cared to use. Good stuff.

cgalpin
August 5th, 2008, 04:49 PM
She's a beauty, poo brown and all!

grnrvrs
August 5th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Yeah, brown ain't my thing, but I love the rest of it. :)

She's a beauty, poo brown and all!

130Tdi
August 5th, 2008, 05:25 PM
I guess it does have plenty of ummpf. Its a 3.5 liter TDI. A full liter larger than what Rover put in these trucks. Looks good Paul- hadn't seen a picture since you bought it way back when.

tomaco1
August 5th, 2008, 06:02 PM
I believe its called "Roan Brown"

grnrvrs
August 5th, 2008, 06:09 PM
In all due respect, its 3.85 liters and Rowan Brown. :nerd

rmuller
August 5th, 2008, 06:35 PM
I believe its called "Roan Brown"I think that's a member of our forum from PA!

130Tdi
August 5th, 2008, 07:40 PM
3.85 Lol !

tomaco1
August 5th, 2008, 07:54 PM
It grows on YA!

evilfij
August 6th, 2008, 09:45 AM
"I think that's a member of our forum from PA!"

Close enough.

Ron

hillstrubl
October 22nd, 2010, 10:43 AM
I'm just catching up on this really old thread (slow day)

Hey Paul (grnrvrs (http://www.d-90.com/forum/member.php?u=670)) any chance you can repost all those pics you put up? the photobucket link is dead.

rijosho
October 22nd, 2010, 10:52 AM
I'm just catching up on this really old thread (slow day)

Hey Paul (grnrvrs (http://www.d-90.com/forum/member.php?u=670)) any chance you can repost all those pics you put up? the photobucket link is dead.


Try this:

http://s36.photobucket.com/home/grnrvrs/recentuploads

------ Follow up post added October 22nd, 2010 11:56 AM ------

Or more specifically:

http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/grnrvrs/110/