Winch...panel of experts

[Overland90]

I regard all your know how on many of my decisions...

my scenario:

95 d90 NAS SW
usually loaded down with gear...500 to 1000 #'s
will probably be pulling a trailer...Possible Adventure Trailers type
Current OEM bumber w/ brush guards (pix below)
My question:

Is WARN the only and best answer?
what weight?
I like the clean look of my current bumber setup...how can I preserve this with out spending an enourmous amount of cash on a new bumper/brush system
Thanks in advance!

Chris

[Stmpede]

I have a POE setup that I would let go pretty inexpensively. You aren't going to get any more stock looking than either the factory winch bumper or the POE...

It looks like this (http://www.eastcoastrover.com/162/1.jpg) installed.

Let me know if you're interested. The mount I have will fit either the warn or the superwinch x9, probably many others too. The mount was powdercoated recently and the bumper has just been painted and never installed, so looks like brand new!

[Overland90]

Thanks...pm'd you

[evilfij]

Warn 8274 with the Warn D90 bumper to mount it.

[Red90]

The answer is more based around what you are doing with the truck and why you need the winch.

[LRNAD90]

The answer is more based around what you are doing with the truck and why you need the winch.

x2..

There are many options out there beyond Warn (not that some Warn's aren't good options). Superwinch, Ramsey, MileMarker, etc.. Don't forget there are different types of power plants, drive systems, brakes etc as well. That's why its important to know your intended use/need if you want help deciding what's best..

[evilfij]

No one ever bought an 8274 and regretted it. The only downside is price. Can't say that about any other winch out there (even Husky's and Ramsey REs have the downside of not being that fast).

[LRNAD90]

No one ever bought an 8274 and regretted it. The only downside is price. Can't say that about any other winch out there (even Husky's and Ramsey REs have the downside of not being that fast).

Well, I think that size/configuration can be a downside of the 8274 when it comes to mounting options, but its performance is pretty undisputed. However, if you happen to be the type (rare) that 'powers out' under load a good bit, I'd still say a worm gear winch is superior to one that uses a separate brake assembly..

[Antichrist]

No one ever bought an 8274 and regretted it.After about 34 years use of my 8274 I can't say I've ever regretted buying it, even when I burned up the motor, but there are certainly times when I felt it was scary fast. On the other hand, my RE10000 will go on seemingly all day. Or at least as long as my batteries last. My favorite winch, and the one that really will go all day, is my Koenig PTO winch.

[Buckon37s]

No one ever bought an 8274 and regretted it. The only downside is price. Can't say that about any other winch out there (even Husky's and Ramsey REs have the downside of not being that fast).

Don't forget weight, and demensions, and blocking pretty much your entire radiator.

Not that I have anything against it. I just like smaller. I would go even smaller than I am now if I could do it again for free...

edit: If your planning on wheeling it, I wouldn't mount the winch that low. You can weld a bracket to the frame and mount the winch using your factory bumper with a little cutting of the front. Or buy the factory looking winch bumper.

[evilfij]

"and the one that really will go all day, is my Koenig PTO winch."

Mine too. Real winches have driveshafts. I like the PTO driven one better than the crank driven one.

Follow-up Post:

I should add that east coast aka mud/hill winching is completely different than west coast rock winching.

[Buckon37s]

"and the one that really will go all day, is my Koenig PTO winch."

Mine too. Real winches have driveshafts. I like the PTO driven one better than the crank driven one.

Follow-up Post:

I should add that east coast aka mud/hill winching is completely different than west coast rock winching.

What if the engine isn't running?

[JimC]

Then neither is your winch. Duh.

:grin

[evilfij]

What if the engine isn't running?

I get it running.

Seriously, the I am stuck in the middle of a river and need a winch but can't get the motor to run is so unlikely to happen that it really never comes up and if it should happen to come up, I would have the truck in front or behind me winch me. It is not like you can winch a mile to the trailhead.

[Buckon37s]

Then neither is your winch. Duh.

:grin

Thats a deal killer for me. The most common use of my winch is to right myself from a roll. And if I am using the winch, I am completely over so the motor has to be off. I know most people have different uses for them, but its a big problem.

[Antichrist]

The best of both worlds I think would be a hydraulic winch with an electrically powered hydraulic pump as backup.
But if your primary use of a winch is short limited time pulls, an electric is fine.

[rover4x4]

"and the one that really will go all day, is my Koenig PTO winch."

Mine too. Real winches have driveshafts. I like the PTO driven one better than the crank driven one.

Follow-up Post:

I should add that east coast aka mud/hill winching is completely different than west coast rock winching.


How does a truck with a fried ECU run a PTO? Husky 10 would be hard to beat, and the mantec setup from RN is pretty sharp. I think Jtisdale had this setup for sale back some time ago. The primary reason I want a winch is so I dont have to walk my ass out of the woods to get a pull..

[woldd90]

I love my Husky 10... Worm drive will run all day with out any issues or over-heating.

[Red90]

The best of both worlds I think would be a hydraulic winch with an electrically powered hydraulic pump as backup.
But if your primary use of a winch is short limited time pulls, an electric is fine.

Not really. An 8274 will pull all day, no problem and fast. They are great.

But as stated, it takes up a lot of space.

[flippedrover]

I get it running.

Seriously, the I am stuck in the middle of a river and need a winch but can't get the motor to run is so unlikely to happen that it really never comes up and if it should happen to come up, I would have the truck in front or behind me winch me. It is not like you can winch a mile to the trailhead.
Anyone else wanna see this happen? :tounge

[Red90]

I love my Husky 10... Worm drive will run all day with out any issues or over-heating.

Certainly. If you want reliability and it is just for emergency use, it is perfect. But they are slow. If you are doing a lot of winching, it takes forever to get anywhere.

This is why I stated that we need to know the intended use. Someone that intends to winch 10 times a day is different than someone that just has it for that rare emergency.

[Antichrist]

Not really. An 8274 will pull all day, no problem and fast.There's no comparison, as far as duty cycle, between an electric winch and a PTO or hydraulic winch.
Even if you had an electrical system that could maintain 300amps all day, the winch motor wouldn't last.
Don't get me wrong, the 8274 is a great winch, I have two of them, but it's not reality to say they can compete with a mechanical winch when it comes to duty cycle.

[Overland90]

Certainly. If you want reliability and it is just for emergency use, it is perfect. But they are slow. If you are doing a lot of winching, it takes forever to get anywhere.

This is why I stated that we need to know the intended use. Someone that intends to winch 10 times a day is different than someone that just has it for that rare emergency.
My intention is for emergency use...Southern Cal...High Desert...low to no H20 or mud crossings (cause there is none in So Cal)

[Red90]

Then the worm drives are a good choice, like the Husky. Less to go wrong, always works. Low profile to fit in your needs.