oil cooler lines

[CHRIS C]

I called rover accessories to order a oil cooler line kit. Rob told me he had a customer come to him from New Mexico to have a set put on and was unable to do so. The customer had a 97 with a 4.0, like mine. The nipple that the lines connect to the radiator were different. Rob thought the radiator could have been an aftermarket. My question is has anyone else had this problem or know of another company to try. Rovers accessories kit looks cool, and I like the warrenty, but am more concerned with functionability. Also is there any transmission lines that might be suggested? Thanks Chris

[wicks]

I am looking into this as well (after my Dad's engine fire) and I have found nothing for the 97 D90. I think we are stuck with replacing with genuine every several years.

[CHRIS C]

Thanks Wicks I had a 76 landcruiser burn to the ground with mine and my friends stuff, so I am anxious to find something. I would like to upgrade them but if nothing else will stick to genuine. Thanks Chris

[artm]

Wait a minute...you can always take them out and go to a local "hose shop" and have some custom made.

What fittings are on there, anybody know? I plan on doing mine over real soon now.

[rover4x4]

I 2nd that thought. THere is most certainly a shop that could make something to accomadate. Perhaps cheaper than genuine parts???? just a thought

[Doug]

Wicks, maybe ask M&M, the metal fab shop on San Fernando, who makes hoses. I remember that Andrew Parker (96 Rangie) said he pulled his out, took them to a shop and waited while new ones were made, then went back and installed.

DW

[kellymoe]

San Fernando and what? I need new lines too.

[CHRIS C]

Sounds like a good possibility. I will call some racing friends in Phoenix and see what I can come up with. Let me know if you guys find anything out, Calif. may bring more luck with this project. I didn't think about reusing the fittings, wasn't to sure if they were considered high preasure. Also I would assume(MOAFU) that the lines will have to be drained to remove, as in when changing the oil? Thanks again Chris

[Doug]

Kelly, there's a machine shop on San Fernando called M&M. Near the Glendale/Burbank line. They've done some work for us. Just thinking they may know of a hose shop that close buy. Could also call Industrial Metals out near the airport for a referral.

Doug

[aschoent]

Hi Guys,

I build a lot of custom cars. I usually put the hoses together myself from stainless hose, and connections which I either get from PAW locally, or from racers wholesale mail order.
If I come across a high pressure hose that I want done better than I could do myself, I go to Orme Brothers Inc in Northridge. They are located at 18453 Parthenia Pl. Their number is 818 885-1414. They usually can do it while you wait, but I generally leave it one morning on the way to work, and pick it up the next.

-Andy

[aschoent]

http://www.ormebros.com/
http://www.ormebros.com/

[Craigd]

There is an ad in the Back of Four Wheeler that specializes in aftermarket hoses, they have like 200,000 applications, I think they do custom stuff also. I can't remember the name of the company though sorry

[mhansen]

Look up your local Caterpillar Equipment Dealer, take the hoses to there shop, they can make any high pressure hose imaginable

[mattdh]

sounds like we should organize a group buy!!

[Tawayama]

Originally posted by mattdh
sounds like we should organize a group buy!!

By the time you organize a group buy, get enough people together to make it worthwhile, order the stuff and get it all shipped to you, your hoses are going to blow and you'll toast your truck.

Take them off, get them rebuilt, get them back on. It only takes a day.

[javelinadave]

I may have a solution for all of us this week. Are we looking for all the lines to be replaced or just the high pressure lines (not the lines from the resevoir)?

[Chaucer]

If you're poking around there, might as well do all.

[OCD90]

Interested...

If not, the r/r requires that we drain the oil, r/r (are those fittings to be wrapped in teflon tape before relacement), then we refill the oil? Anything else?

[Tawayama]

None of those fittings need tape. They are either compression fittings or use O-rings.

[javelinadave]

Does anybody know what type/size fittings that are on the hoses?
I found a place in Phoenix that makes custom braided stainless hoses for a realy good price. That usualy have a same day turn around.

[bd90]

Count me in on the braided line. I think mine ruptured yesterday. Thanks to this forum I was able to narrow it down. Is the fix pretty involved or rather simple. After the liine ruptured and the engine was sprayed off I still could not tell where the oil was coming from. Is there a schematic of those hoses somewhere that I could look at before going in blind. Haven't looked at the workshop manual CDROM yet (computer is broken).

[Tawayama]

The reason why I suggest taking your old hoses into a hose shop is the fact that the end fittings are damn near impossible to find on their own.

Trust me, it'll be MUCH easier to take your old hoses in, have them re-done and swap them in.

I've been down this road before. It ends in 'you take your old hoses in and have them rebuilt'.

If you look up about 6 posts or so you'll see where I wrote: "By the time you get your group order together you'll have ruptured your lines and toasted your engine and it will have cost you 12,000 dollars to get it replaced at ECR", or something like that.

You have to remove them anyway, why not take advantage of a local resource and take your hoses in to get rebuilt. It ain't that scary.

:rolleyes

[CHRIS C]

Dave is the place you found Grandberry Supply? My friend called them and thought they were pricey. Let me kwow what you find out, I may end up sending mine to ORME BROS, I talked to them last week sounds like they know their stuff. As far as the fittings Rob at Rover Accesories said it was a Land Rover Only fitting, he tried to find some with no luck and too costly to have made. Too bad these lines aren't the same as on a 95. While I'm at it I also am going to have transmission lines done. Is there any other lines anyone can suggest, might as well do them all at once. Chris

[javelinadave]

Tea Gardens Auto A/C
29th Street & Indian School
602-955-5057
They do a lot of custom stuff for hot rodders.
He said about $60 or $70ish per line.
He also can make braided SS lines for A/C, oil, transmission, etc.
You have to bring him the hose already out of your vehicle unless it is an A/C hose. I have never used his but my friend with a 69 Vette swears by his work! Hope this helps. Let me know if you use him, I will probably changing things out soon.

[wicks]

I'll check into ORME as well. They are local to me so that's great, thanks.

I'd do all the high pressure; 2 oil lines, 2 trans cooler lines, 1 high pressure steering line.

I think it is just a drain the oil, wrench off the hoses, refit the hoses (maybe with a prime of oil), change filter (primed), refill oil and done. I think I'm going back to DINO oil.

Speaking of that, is it just fine to switch back from syth oil to dino?

Fleeting thought: What about a preventative fix, such as a "sleeve" type thing to go round the hoses? Something that would act as the steel to stop spray if the rubber breaks...hmm. (Rather than change them all)

[javelinadave]

Wick,
To sleeve the lines you would have to take off a fitting anyway. Do it right, not half assed. I bet it costs the same anyway.

[Abrooks]

$60 is highway robbery!! I checked into this 2 months or so ago here in DC and it was going to cost $25 a line while I waited. Granted, I haven't found any time to actually do it yet, but still, I'd check around.

Tony

[artm]

So...do you bring it in and have them use the same fittings??? If so then a group buy is out.

If not then I'm in for oil, ps and tranny lines.

So...who's near a good and cheap place???

[javelinadave]

Anthony,
Are you sure that price was for braided stainless steel lines. For that price I would guess it was for rubber hoses. I could be wrong???

[Tawayama]

Art,

It's really simple. Take off your old hoses, take them in and ask them to make new hoses using your esixting fitting ends. On some of them they'll braze them to new tubing, on others they'll cut off the crimps and use new crimped ends.

If the truck is going to be down anyway, do them all. The only hoses that are a pain are the auto-tranny hoses. Most people use a cut-off wheel to remove them on the transmission end, get new hoses made up and then use hose clamps (they're low pressure anyway), on the transmission end.

Find an Aeroquip dealer. You'll know you're getting good hose, and they will be very familiar with rebuilding odd-ball hoses.

Good luck!

[artm]

I can't afford any down time at the moment so I was hoping they use new fittings.

I gotta get the RR up first and get on this soon.

Damn...sure wish I still had my Honda!

[flippedrover]

Anthony where did you get that price from? Thinking about replacing mine before they go.

[Tawayama]

If you can't deal with the down time, then that's the biggest problem. I once had to drive my truck to the driveline shop, remove the driveline in the parking lot, get it rebuilt, and re-install it when I had no other options.

I've done that with radiators too. Really sucks.

This is where the 'plug'n'play' lines would be nice. Of course, you could always order replacements from the dealer.

:grin

[JimC]

I have a set of two old oil cooler hoses off my 95 and they will soon be worthless to me with my diesel conversion. If someone wants them I will give them up for little more than the cost of shipping.

[Neo]

Jim,
I recently made mine out of stainless tube/hose, but would like your old ones. I sent you an e-mail. Thanks!

Mine is a 95, and the tube shop I found replicated the end at the cooler, but I had to reuse the banjo end, it is very unique and I could not find and AN style to banjo replacement. I have pics if anyone is interested.

[Abrooks]

Tyler, I can't find the name of the place off-hand, but they're in Alexandria. That said, any of the local speed shops can do the crimp-on.

[flippedrover]

Thanks.

[mattdh]

jeff could you post a pic?does any one know why the used the "banjo" style end on those?could you just put a straight normal end on there?

[Kimos]

Reviewed these posts re search.

Was advised I might address this same issue just as insurance as my lines seem dated.

Best quality replacement source currently for 97?

job advisories?

[Neo]

Matt,
Sorry for the really long delay.
I can definetely (barring technical challenges!) post pics. I'll try to do so tomorrow. I have some on this computer, but have no clue as tpo where they are. I am not a hard code fluids guy, but my gut says we could replace the banjo with a straight through connector (AN style) and eliminate them altogether, and flow better. If you think about the flow, it has some gnarly turns to negotiate. Staight connector would work better. The threads are odd though. I spec'ed them and have that data around here somewhere.
JBR