Winter in the MidAtlantic/New England

[loykd]

I thought I'd resurrect this subject. We kinda faded on the last try.

What trips are already scheduled in Nov and Dec that might be of interest to others?

Maybe once we all see what is already organized, we could fill in the gaps with runs to Paragon PA, Ringwood NJ, Florida trail MA, or any other.

Personally, I could make a Paragon trip 1-2 Nov or NJ trip 8-10 Nov and maybe a MA/VT run in Dec.

I'd encourage everyone to throw in their $0.02, especially those who sit on the fringes.

[Mike Hippert]

Nov. 1-2, 8-9 are no good for me. But the rest is open. Jimmy from MAR and I will be taking a group out the 9th in NH for a day trip if anyone is intrested. Other then that as long as the Rover Gods are good to me I am up for anything. Maybe we could do a day trip from Florida MA to Paragon to Ringwood because I know how Dave likes spending more time on the road then sleeping.:grin

[dmarchand]

:grin I was hoping we could caravan to Florida, or Moab. Non-stop.

Mike, what's the story with that ride on the 9th? I saw some chit-chat about it on the yahoo group.

[dante18]

I am still up for anything any time. Let me know.


Dante

[Mike Hippert]

The 9th Jimmy and I are planning a trip for any Rover owners modified or stock. The trail follows under some power lines and is 2 trails side by side one is easy enough for stock rovers and the other is a little hard. THe place we are stopping for lunch is a quary with allot of very chalenging lines (bring your lunch there is no Subway nearby).

The pic is deceiving, the first step is actually 2 feet high.

[Mike Hippert]

Ahh my pic got choped! i must of resized it wrong.

[loykd]

What's with all that rock crawling?? Don't you like the mud of VA???

Mike, that looks like a great run! But if I were a betting man, I'd say that you need to schedule at least ONE weekend between trips for you. Gives you some "quality" time with your wrenches under the truck.

[Mike Hippert]

ken, I was too busy playing in the mud too take pics of it, and Jimmy forgot his camera.

Gives you some "quality" time with your wrenches under the truck.

I do that on week nights in the cold dark (my neighbors think i'm nuts but you guys know I,m not......... right?).

[loykd]

Originally posted by Mike Hippert
(my neighbors think i'm nuts but you guys know I,m not......... right?).


As far as YOU know...

It's not bad when you start hearing voices. It's bad when you start ANSWERING them.

[Mike Hippert]

Is it bad when you start using colorful metaphors when you are describing how you feel towards an inanimate object that somehow manages to defy the laws of physics and makes a mockery of you?

[dmarchand]

I ran FL road Saturday with a buddy. Finally made it up an obstacle I've been trying for some time. There is already snow in the Berkshires. I would imagine in another week or two, weather depending, snow is going to close the trail to anyone without chains. Seems like it's getting colder, earlier this year.

Jorge, you might remember this step? You and Dave Smith did it at the OTR event... It's the third real obstacle in. Only took me two-three tries...

:grin

[dmarchand]

The hard part about that 5 foot step is not just the shear drop, but the wet leaves and surrounding trees. Too close for comfort.

Getting setup for the climb:

[Art Vigil]

Cool photos guys!
Now when the hell are you going to make that trip out west...say Colorado? You pass through it on the way to Moab, ya know. :grin

[Mike Hippert]

we will follow you back from your tip out here. You know its on the way back from GB!:grin

[mudrover]

So do we have a date set?

[loykd]

Pete, I could make it this Saturday at Paragon if we can get a group together. Any idea if Jorge is avail? Any other NJ-ers?

Dante, you in?

[dmarchand]

Apparently the northeastern Hummer groups will be there, along with other rigs:

"I'm forwarding an email from and invite that was offered to the
New England Hummer Owners Group. This event is open to
any 4x4 and it's a run down at Paragon in PA. on Nov. 1st.

I can't get down there next weekend but for anyone that can
it's $20 plus bring a toy to wheel at Paragon all day. "

Have fun!:grin

[loykd]

Dave, those are AWESOME photos. You guys have all the good trails up there.

It's also a funny contrast to see the thumbnail of your truck shown under your name on the left next to the shiny truck in the right, Thread column. Looks like you dumped a couple roll of quarters at the car wash....

With the snowflakes falling, I guess I should start looking into chains if I want to make the Dec or Feb trips...

[chrisvonc]

The first weekend of Nov is the monthly ride weekend at Paragon as well as the Toys for Tots ride so expect a crowd.

I wont be able to make it as I am working our local Dealership run a couple mountains up the road.

[mudrover]

I haven't heard from/seen Jorge in awhile and don't know what he's up to. If we could get one more person, then we could hit paragon one of these weekends. Anyone???

[dante18]

This weekend is no good for me, I have to work. Maybe the weekend after?

Dante

[mudrover]

The weekend after is good for me...Ken are you going to be free then?

[TDI Guy]

Pete, will it be a day trip or overnight?

Randy:afro

[mudrover]

I know I will probably only be able to wheel for one day, but I don't know about anyone else.

Oh Randy Here's (http://web.njit.edu/~pm55/DSCN0634.JPG) a pic of those MTRs on beadlocks.:grin

[TDI Guy]

Nice..... if you are only going for the day, Let me know and I might go with you if thats ok... by the way, can you run beadlocks on the street also? Will they balance? Who made the rims?

Randy

[loykd]

Why don't we reset? 9 Nov (Sunday) should work for me.

How about the rest of you? I think that one full day would be good. Maybe spend the night at a motel Sun eve and drive home on Monday. But, that's just MY vote...

[mudrover]

Ken, the 9th sounds good to me.

Randy, these beadlocks (made by allied) are technically not "DOT" approved and are labeled for affroad use only. First off as you know most cops probably wouldn't know this and wouldn't hassle me, and if I was ever stopped for running them I'd say that they are the streetlock "simulated" beadlocks. This however doesn't mean that they are unsafe. Most manufactures don't have the $$$ to have them tested by the DOT and are therefore not approved for road use(one manufacture has done so, and as a result their beadlocks are $300++). The one thing you have to do is to consistantly check the torque on the bolts to make sure they don't come loose. If I was going to balance then I'd use equal(kinda like adding sand), but in my opinion the MTRs are pretty good wthout balancing. Plus its not like they're going on vehicle that will go above 70 mph, so I see no need to. The MTRs on the rover aren't balanced and I have done 90++ mph, but I don't recommend it, remember I'm a crazy teenager.

[jorge]

I'll be there but must first check with the job for time off.Randy if your not doing anything come along for the ride.Pete and ken hope to see you ,and thanks for the pics of our last outing.Hoping to be there 11-07!!!.If anyone come across LRM NOV issue please E-mail me ,can't find the issue in NYC.

[loykd]

Jorge, Did you mean 11/9 instead of 11/7? Hope that you can get the time off from work.

CVC, will the 9th be any better for you?

[mudrover]

OK...So Sunday 11/9 is the day. The big Gas Station/Mini Mart up the street should be a good place to meet. What time should we meet up?

Dante, are you going to be able to make it?

[jorge]

Sorry I meant the 9th .

[dante18]

I have to check my calendar but it looks like a go for me. What time is everyone gonna show? I actually might head out on Friday or saturday, ant takers for an extra day?

Dante

[Old Admin]

Originally posted by loykd
CVC, will the 9th be any better for you?
Off the top of my head, the 9th sounds good but I will check with Lisa tonight to make sure we dont have anything else already commited to.

CVC

[mudrover]

I can't make it Friday or Saturday, but I will definatly be there Sunday.

How does 8:00 on Sunday at the gas station sound, or do you guys want to get some more sleep?

[dante18]

8 sounds good. I am pretty sure I will be going up sat morning. will keep you guys posted. Anyone else want to head out with me on saturday. I am going to bring my Brother even though he drives one of those "other" 4x4's.

Dante

[loykd]

I'm going to drive up early Sun morning. (Not as early of a schedule as Mike H or Dave M usually keep, since I won't leave until about 5am). I think its about a 3.5 hr drive for me. Can we say... 9-ish for me? I can meet you on the trail or in the parking lot. we can share cell phone #s offline and that may help getting together if we're running late.

[TDI Guy]

Pete, I'm available on sunday if you don't mind me tagging along.. :grin


Randy

[dante18]

Randy how is the rig coming along? I spoke with my Bro. He is going to give me an answer this weekend.

Dante

[TDI Guy]

Dante, cool, let me know. The rig is coming along. Workin' on the body right now and getting it ready for the paint booth over the winter. Stop by any time to check it out.

Randy

[mudrover]

Randy, sorry the pass seat has already been spoken for(and I have no rear seats), but I will ask Vinnie today if he is going. If he is Im sure he wouldnt have a problem with you riding along.

[loykd]

Randy, you can ride with me if you'd like. Meet you at Paragon or at the gas station.

[Mike Hippert]

Your going to have to fight off Zach for the seat.:grin

[loykd]

Or, more accurately, you'll have to wipe the muddy paw prints off the seat before you sit down. And don't leave any roast beef sandwiches lying around...

[mudrover]

So Randy is going to be on official stick throwing duty.

[TDI Guy]

Thanks Ken. It looks like I will be hitching a ride with Jorge up there so I will see you guys up there.. I'm sure I can bum rides from everyone..:grin ..

RAndy

[TDI Guy]

Next summer my rig will be done and I will have to bring along my lab Hunter for Zach. They can kick it together lol....

[loykd]

Randy, Bring Hunter along. There's plenty of room in the bed of my truck.

Shall we set a rendezvous plan? The website says that they open at 9AM. I'll do my best to be at the gas station (or the park) by then. Shall we say CH 35 if we miss one another? They close at 4PM and you know how we like to be timely on getting back to the gate. haha

Also, don't forget to bring your D-90 coupon from the "Specials" link above.

Jorge (Randy and Hunter), Dante, Pete, CVC and Lisa, and me (and Zach). Is that the crowd?

[chrisvonc]

Hey guys, the coupon is no longer valid and Lisa and I still are trying to work it out to get up there.

CVC

[TDI Guy]

Hunter won't be there this time... lol.... he has other plans. He is a busy guy you know.:lol ... But I will be there.

Randy

[mudrover]

Vinnie & wife maybe coming, but then again, he always says that, so we will have to see.

[loykd]

Damn, no coupon? I guess that Zach will have to wait until NEXT payday to get the rawhide bone that he's always wanted...

My buddy may come, if y'all don't mind. He's got a Jeep with a little lift and mud tires. Not a real technical rig. If you don't think it appropriate, he could just ride with me. Just trying to be a good trail-mate. Oh, and we'll leave "the heat" at home.

[chrisvonc]

Let me see if I can get the coupon deal for the group extended tonight.

CVC

[jjbard]

Ken, Jason here. I'm looking to join you guys at Paragon on Sunday. Let me know if the plan changes!

Jason

[loykd]

Jason, I'm gonna leave here at about 5AM. We'll go through Harrisburg, but I think you might be better off meeting the guys at the gas station at 9am instead of you and me trying to caravan. You might be more likely to get on the trails early rather than wait for me.

Good to have you on the board and the trip.

[jjbard]

Sounds good. It's exactly 2 hours for me from Frederick. I'll have the Meat Wagon at the Exxon at 9am Sunday morning.

Trevor may follow me up as well.

Jason

[chrisvonc]

Everyone still coming?
See you all at the station. I hope to get up there about 8:30 - 8:45am. Will just be me. Lisa is still sick and with the Disco still in the shop, I'll be in the Yellow D90.

Looks like its going to be cold so pack an extra jacket.

CVC

[jorge]

Where is the meeting place after getting off I-81,time ,and CB channel?I'll see everyone tomorrow.

[chrisvonc]

Jorge, looks like to be 8:45am - 9am at the big Exxon food mart (where we all gased up and aired up last time) right after you get onto 924. Cb channel 35.

[TDI Guy]

Jorge is picking me up in the AM so I will be along as the photo guy... Can't wait to meet some of you guys from the board. I have the camera all warmed up too.


Randy

[chrisvonc]

It was a pretty good day out I thought. Got a real late start but it was nice to meet some new faces, ended up with a sizable group including some we didnt count on. Could have used another 2 hours of time but with the winter hours for the park, 1/2 the group was not able to run the 2nd trail and we were definatly not going to repeat being late on getting out again this time.

Anyway, if anyone got pictures, send them over to me and I will get them on the site. I am going to try and kill off the amazing backlog of updates I have let build up this week.

CVC

[TDI Guy]

I had a great time. It was great to finally meet some of you. :grin .... Chris Von and Ken, great spotting jobs.

Jorge thanks again for taking me and letting me test your truck out a bit.

:proud

Oh yeah, Trevor, thanks for that last quick rocket ride out of the quarry.. Those tires are something else. And you were right, no one has them in stock.

Chris I will send you a few pics I took.


Randy:tounge

[loykd]

Chris, Thanks again for being our fearless leader. I think we all appreciate your magnanimity, in EVERYTHING.

Just to let the rest of you guys know, they only allow groups of 3 on the trails. A Hummer came over, said that his group failed to show up, and he ended up joining us for the day. Later, Chris met a stock Wrangler at the front gate and brought him in as an orphan too. Ended up being an interesting crowd of D-90s, Discos, Land Cruiser, Range Rover, Hummer and later a Wrangler.

It was fun to meet the new people and to hear about Randy's project. Dave and Mike, you gotta be laughing when the guys are complimenting ME for my spotting job. Well, I was taught by the best...

[loykd]

another:

[loykd]

and one more:

[dmarchand]

Cool pics, makes me jealous. Mike and I had a good run Sunday, but it wasn't Paragon!

Can't wait to see the updates CVC!
:grin

Ken, I wouldn't say I'm a model for spotting. I think I caused a dimple in Chris's Disco at the end of that hairy run we had (with MH leaning against the tree)...

[chrisvonc]

I think that dimple came from the next tight turn on that run (Sleepy Hollow) at the same spot where I also got high centered.

hehe.. no worrys David. I just like telling everyone you totaled my Disco.
:)

[Mike Hippert]

I'm a good spotter???? :uhoh

I think last time I was spotter someone tried to run me over!:eek:

Oh and me leaning against the tree was my fault, I thought that if I cut into the tree hard enough I could make a 2 point turn a 1 point turn:cool:

[michael couture]

Anyone interested in visiting northern new hampshire's great north woods? We are going on a "Turkey Trot" on Sunday Nov. 30th and again the following weekend. Most of the trails are stock rover friendly but a few are not! Called it quits in three feet of mud at 7:00PM last night