Td5 110 porn

[ECR]

Rover porn, more to come.

[bjf]

You have got to update the site!!

[evilfij]

Mmmm, mudflaps.

[JimC]

The truck is beautiful for sure. Only thing is, I don't think his light set-up is adequate, those Light Force lights just aren't big enough. Mike, please be sure my truck gets a custom bumper allowing me to mount lights at least 14" in diameter.

[ECR]

The truck is beautiful for sure. Only thing is, I don't think his light set-up is adequate, those Light Force lights just aren't big enough. Mike, please be sure my truck gets a custom bumper allowing me to mount lights at least 14" in diameter.

:lol:lol
we turned those suckers on for the first time yesterday... almost melted the paint off the wall.

there are 4 more smaller light-force lamps going on the custom roof rack as well, so I think he'll be able to land planes with all the light.:eek::):)

------ Follow up post added January 28th, 2010 03:02 PM ------

You have got to update the site!!

Now that most of the snow rained off I just might do that.:angry:)

[Paul Davis]

Simply beautiful.

[evilfij]

The truck is beautiful for sure. Only thing is, I don't think his light set-up is adequate, those Light Force lights just aren't big enough. Mike, please be sure my truck gets a custom bumper allowing me to mount lights at least 14" in diameter.

What, you don't like the free banged up stock bumper I gave you?

[ECR]

JimC likes to go the other way.... no lights at all!!:eek::):)

[JimC]

I won't need headlights once I get my 14" death-rays on my bumper. Actually Ron, after I have Mike install the row of stainless spikes, your bumper will look perfect.

[ECR]

Playing in the snow.

[cgalpin]

Nice. More updates on JimC's truck too please.

[o2batsea]

Nice, but it ain't no 1966 109 station wagon.

[phoenix37]

Wow thats a beautiful truck. Nice job. Where is it headed?

[GYM]

Beautiful. Willow Green is a great color.

[sn1987]

amazing, really nice in that dark color. How can anybody ever say the car is not pretty?

btw those lights would be cool for tanning as well

[ECR]

Nice. More updates on JimC's truck too please.

Jims truck is on hold while he ponders what the final product will be.:)

[cgalpin]

WTF, he hasn't figured out what he wants the end product to be yet? I thought I was indecisive!

[ECR]

WTF, he hasn't figured out what he wants the end product to be yet? I thought I was indecisive!

trust me. he is working up a plan and it is a good one.:):):)

[cgalpin]

I was kidding. No doubt he does. Although, I do wonder how much he can deviate at this point given the current level of completion. My guess is TDI since he mentioned it's headed for Germany which I believe is plan D at this point.

[JFD]

Those fender flares are glossy for sure !

[ECR]

Some time in the CA sun for this truck and they'll be "normal".

Here is a Beach Runner we did after just 4 months in the sun with "glossy" flares, you can se the "flatness" coming along nicely.

[KKilo23]

Playing in the snow.

Beautiful.

[phoenix37]

[QUOTE=ECR;202387]:lol:lol
we turned those suckers on for the first time yesterday... almost melted the paint off the wall.

Mike how do the compare to Hellas? Looking to upgrade my stock LR fogs. Ive had Hella 4000s in the past and trying to decide between those and Lightforce.

[sn1987]

well seen those in action and not something i want to look in when driving! yours have to be even worse :-D click! (http://fotograf-in-stuttgart.de/photogallery/gallery/Projects%20in%20progress/TempWww/6066afstgt_preview.jpg)

[phoenix37]

You would only want to use them offroad with no opposing traffic. I live on a very dark dirt road and we have alot of deer so i really like a strong light that can shoot out past the stock fog and headlights.

[sn1987]

i want to eventually get some on the bumper to help with high beams. we have lot of dears crossing the roads too but i like the look of it as well :-)

[crown14]

Since when did lights scare off Deer?

[phoenix37]

No one said they scared them off. But i prefer to see them with enough time to stop. Then again thats what ARBs are for right?

[sn1987]

yep with lockers you should have no problems to drive over deer

[MUDSUX]

click! (http://fotograf-in-stuttgart.de/photogallery/gallery/Projects%20in%20progress/TempWww/6066afstgt_preview.jpg)

Ooooooooh. Drool. You are so lucky.

[sn1987]

its nothing looky at this beauty i drove CLICKY! (http://fotograf-in-stuttgart.de/photogallery/gallery/Projects%20in%20progress/TempWww/6055afstgt_preview.jpg)

[MUDSUX]

Yes, I totally agree. That is definitely the one I would have picked too. I would be OK with any of the Defenders in this post. ECR does an amazing job with what we have available here in the US.

[phoenix37]

Sorry meant an ARB bumper or Bull bar as they are called.


yep with lockers you should have no problems to drive over deer

[bjf]

its nothing looky at this beauty i drove CLICKY! (http://fotograf-in-stuttgart.de/photogallery/gallery/Projects%20in%20progress/TempWww/6055afstgt_preview.jpg)

I want that damn thing

[Doug]

I've been running a pair of Lightforce's for a few years. Terrific penetration and no complaints. You don't really need the extras on the rack. I use the rack lights now to light up the trail's sides and close in up front, under the Lightforce beams. Lightforce is the new standard for the Baja these days...

Also >>> I made a bar that sets the rack lights back about 2 feet from the front end of the roof. That way, there is no light 'spray' on the hood, so much easier to watch the road ahead...

DW

[ECR]

Done and ready for the detailer to clean it all up for the customer.:):)

[Jon_Winningham]

So I was reading in Car & Driver today about how the new Turbo Porsche can hit 60 MPH in 2.9 seconds.
But am I crazy for thinking if I had to chose between a new Turbo Porsche and this D110 Mike is sharing with us that I would chose this D110?!

Very nice Mike!
Does it have ABS?

[bjf]

The basket and backset lights are awesome

[ECR]

am I crazy for thinking if I had to chose between a new Turbo Porsche and this D110 Mike is sharing with us that I would chose this D110?!

Very nice Mike!
Does it have ABS?

Yes, you are crazy.:)
I certainly respect the Porsche (can't argue that) but they have a stereotype of "men of a certain age" that always put me off them. Not my bag baby, I'll take the 110 anyday.:)

Yes, it has ABS and TC.

------ Follow up post added February 23rd, 2010 08:15 PM ------

The basket and backset lights are awesome

Thanks. Ian and I went round and round on trying to make something that protected the lights but also looked OK. Not sure it is my favorite design, but it does the job of keeping the lights from harm (as they are plastic). Ian also made tons of cool tie down points so just about anything can be strapped into the rack, and it has a floor and he angled the upper rail in slightly to match the "taper" of the truck's body as it goes up. Hard to see, but it looks good.

Wait until you see the new dash with the body-color-ish center dash section.

[rover26c]

So I was reading in Car & Driver today about how the new Turbo Porsche can hit 60 MPH in 2.9 seconds.
But am I crazy for thinking if I had to chose between a new Turbo Porsche and this D110 Mike is sharing with us that I would chose this D110?!

If you have the money get both! :)

[KKilo23]

If you have the money get both! :)

They money it probably takes to build this truck, I can imagine the owner has more than just Land Rovers in his stable. :)

Mike once again GREAT work!

[ECR]

I can imagine the owner has more than just Land Rovers in his stable. :)

This guy is a Hummer convert. Here is his old truck:

[KKilo23]

This guy is a Hummer convert. Here is his old truck:


Glad to see he made the right decision.

[ECR]

More Td5 porn, Blue this time.:)

[rijosho]

Are those the LED headlights?

[ECR]

Are those the LED headlights?

Yes they are

[evilfij]

Are those the LED headlights?


I think we need a group buy. I have been eying them since they came out. Trucklite makes them, right?

[JPRO576]

Nice lights they are. I just installed a set on one of my clients 110's along with a set of led fog's from vision x.

[bjf]

are they expensive? what do they do?

[evilfij]

edit: $300 each.

[bjf]

so 600 for two? why would you want them?

[Red90]

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/LED.html
1995-1997 NAS Defender 90 Plug and Play Basic kit (Part # LEDPPB) $395.
Contains 2 Red Stop/Tail units and 2 Amber Turn signal units all with correct factory plugs installed.
1995-1997 NAS Defender 90 Plug and Play Full kit (Part # LEDPP) $595.
Contains 2 Red Stop/Tail units, 2 Amber Turn signal units and Clear reverse unit all with correct factory plugs installed.

or http://www.mobilecentre.co.uk/upgrades-for-land-rover-vehicles-led-exterior-lighting-sets-c-36_37.html
River Runners 70mm LED replacement exterior light kit Multi Volt x 10 lamps £405.00
River Runners 70mm LED replacement exterior light kit Multi Volt x 8 lamps £325.00

[ECR]

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/LED.html


or http://www.mobilecentre.co.uk/upgrades-for-land-rover-vehicles-led-exterior-lighting-sets-c-36_37.html

No, he means the headlights.

[bjf]

yeah can you tell me more about the headlights. advantages etc?

[evilfij]

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=trucklite+led+headlight

:)

Ron

[ECR]

yeah can you tell me more about the headlights. advantages etc?

cons:
$

pros:
much lower amp draw
brighter
daylight color temp
cool/bling factor
longer life, like life of the vehicle life
dang near unbreakable
no mods to install (unlike some HID units)
waterproof
etc

------ Follow up post added May 6th, 2010 08:21 PM ------

BTW this truck has an upgraded ECU and a better intercooler as well. Can't wait to see how those changes make it drive.

[ini88]

cons:
$
shorter projected range

pros:
much lower amp draw
brighter
daylight color temp
cool/bling factor
longer life, like life of the vehicle life
dang near unbreakable
no mods to install (unlike some HID units)
waterproof
etc

[ECR]

shorter projected range


Compared to what?
They sure are better (range) than the Halogens I used to run.

[rijosho]

Kind of a stupid request, but can you post a pic with those headlights on? Wondering how they look. I'm on my phone, so my apologies if they're on the ecr site.

[ECR]

Kind of a stupid request, but can you post a pic with those headlights on? Wondering how they look. I'm on my phone, so my apologies if they're on the ecr site.

Will do.
That Blue 110 isn't up and running yet, but will post a side by side with a standard Halogen and one of the LED units in the 90 I'm driving currently on the site. It'll likely be next week before I get to it though.

They aren't for everyone. Personally I like the bulletproof nature. They can't fill with muddy water like a Hella H4 and seem to work well, but your mileage may vary.

PS: I don't sell these lights. I get them from NAPA just like anyone else would. Our Truck-Lite dealership only covers the UK branding, not these lights (as they are US based) so I have no bias.

[ini88]

Compared to what?
They sure are better (range) than the Halogens I used to run.

I have heard that the output range isn't as far as the stock headlights. or that the light scatters too much resulting in a shorter beam. I have yet to see them so this is just word of mouth from some peopel i have spoken too.

Trust me, I want them on my truck bad, its just the money that has me wanting to see a real test to convince my to pull the trigger. I know you are busy at the shop, but if you could post a comparison stock to LEDs that would be awesome!

[Doug]

I've been running twin LF's up front for a few years. I upgraded to the HIDs two years ago. You use filters to diffuse the light to your conditions. You can choose 'no diffusion' (clear), 'full diffusion' or 'combo', which spreads about 50% of light laterally across the road, and leaves about 50% for the pencil beam. Blue filter set is great in snow. I run the 'combo clear' filter except for blizzard conditions in the Sierras.

BTW, I spent the night at a Baja 1000 pit stop north of La Paz a couple of years ago. (We were flying over the race but all helicopters were grounded at sundown.) Standing next to the course, I could tell the Lightforce trophy trucks from the others, their light was so bright. (Can you tell I've been an LF fan for years???) ;)

DW

[KKilo23]

some more info... http://www.discountfleetsupply.com/tlc27250c.html

[Gren_T]

Great looking 110's, the green is great, though i think the tyres look odd
definitely worth a double take.

regards

Gren

[JimC]

I've been looking at all the HMMWV's over here with the LED head lights. I've been trying to decide if it would be cool or tool to put them on the 110. I think I'm convinced I want them. I think they're still probably toolish to put on, but I still want them.

[ECR]

I have heard that the output range isn't as far as the stock headlights. or that the light scatters too much resulting in a shorter beam. I have yet to see them so this is just word of mouth from some peopel i have spoken too.

Trust me, I want them on my truck bad, its just the money that has me wanting to see a real test to convince my to pull the trigger. I know you are busy at the shop, but if you could post a comparison stock to LEDs that would be awesome!

We'll do some side by side tests in the next few weeks and put them on the ECR site.:)

[130Tdi]

I think they're still probably toolish to put on, but I still want them.

Great signature line !

[bjf]

Do you need an upgraded wiring harness to use these like the hella lamps? Will it burn out the switch otherwise?

[Red90]

There are two different 7" LED headlights on the market. Which ones are you looking at? From what I can see the JW Speaker ones are better.

http://www.jwspeaker.com/catalog/forward_lighting/model_8700.html

http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=64057&langId=-1

[JimC]

Great signature line !

Glad to help. Now I just need to see the comparison so that I can justify in my toolish mind how they really are a superior lighting system for my application (driving around).

[Red90]

Glad to help. Now I just need to see the comparison so that I can justify in my toolish mind how they really are a superior lighting system for my application (driving around).

It would be interesting to see an unbiased evaluation. The comparisons I have read on the lighting forums (for the Trucklites) says they are on par with a decent halogen for brightness and don't have a a very good beam pattern and that a proper 7" HID (Osram or similar) is much better.

[ECR]

Just in case you thought the truck-lite ones were ugly....

the JW Speaker ones are better.

http://www.jwspeaker.com/catalog/forward_lighting/model_8700.html

------ Follow up post added May 7th, 2010 11:28 AM ------

Do you need an upgraded wiring harness to use these like the hella lamps? Will it burn out the switch otherwise?

No, a benefit to LED is a lower draw. No changes to wiring needed.

Geez, if I would have known this was going to become an LED debate due to one picture of a 110, I sure would have thought twice.:):):)
So how many folks have actually sat their ass behind the wheel of a truck with LED headlights? (other than JimC as I know he sees them all the time)

[rijosho]

So how many folks have actually sat their ass behind the wheel of a truck with LED headlights?


Not me, but I'd be willing to pay a visit if that's an invite to take free rides in ECR 110s.

[JimC]

One reason we use the LED's here is that you can shoot out a pair of halogens really easily. I'm going to claim that I'm concerned about people shooting out the headlights on my 110.

[ini88]

I see them on the newer UPS trucks in the city. Though UPS never delivers packages at night I never get to see them used! And they are the same 7" size I believe!

I really like the low draw and how they will last forever. Just need to see them in a side by side comparison.

[Red90]

So how many folks have actually sat their ass behind the wheel of a truck with LED headlights? (other than JimC as I know he sees them all the time)

Not me. That is why I am eagerly waiting for your unbiased expert review.

[dmarchand]

Not sure what is worse. The design of the light or the truck it was installed on:
http://www.mobilecentre.co.uk/model-8700-7-round-led-headlamp-12-volt-par-56-p-512.html

Notice the trans cooler in the second pic.

Video of the light in military application.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3930607/test-drive

[Lucasd2002]

We'll do some side by side tests in the next few weeks and put them on the ECR site.:)

Are you going to compare them to E-codes?

[Overlander]

Just in case you thought the truck-lite ones were ugly....



------ Follow up post added May 7th, 2010 11:28 AM ------



No, a benefit to LED is a lower draw. No changes to wiring needed.

Geez, if I would have known this was going to become an LED debate due to one picture of a 110, I sure would have thought twice.:):):)
So how many folks have actually sat their ass behind the wheel of a truck with LED headlights? (other than JimC as I know he sees them all the time)

I saw them all the time, in Iraq. I think they are the way to go and the wave of the future. Halogens and tube tv's are in their final chapters.

BTW, for non-subscribers, Overland Journal's last edition just did a very robust comparison of off road lights to include halogen, HID and LED market leaders.

Also remembered another con for LED. They don't generate heat, and so extreme cold/arctic weather they will not melt off snow/ice. I'll stick with Halogens until they solve for that, since I want to travel in those conditions.

[rijosho]

Bump.

:)

[junkyddog11]

So how many folks have actually sat their ass behind the wheel of a truck with LED headlights? (other than JimC as I know he sees them all the time)

I've had a set on a truck for some time now (they were the first 12v pair to go out from Truck light) and have been driving with them for over a year. They seem bright enough but I do notice that I am using the Hella driving lights more, which I would think means they are not quite as good. I dig the low draw and bomb proof aspect. The price will come down..........plus you need multiple direct hits to shoot one out :eek:

[ECR]

I've had a set on a truck for some time now (they were the first 12v pair to go out from Truck light) and have been driving with them for over a year. They seem bright enough but I do notice that I am using the Hella driving lights more, which I would think means they are not quite as good. I dig the low draw and bomb proof aspect. The price will come down..........plus you need multiple direct hits to shoot one out :eek:

Yes, the question was posed to those where indicating opinions with never having seen the lights in person.:)

Carey told me you did one set of LEDs on a customers truck, not one of your own.
So how did they do last winter????
The lack of heat seems like a real issue.
What were the results of driving them in the snow and ice??????

[junkyddog11]

I've done a few customer trucks and one of them lives up here and I drive it a couple of times a week. Didn't notice any real issues with winter, but didn't drive in anything really nasty at all. They get pretty warm so I can't imagine it would be an issue, assuming perhaps ice / snow buildup may be an issue?

[ECR]

I've done a few customer trucks and one of them lives up here and I drive it a couple of times a week. Didn't notice any real issues with winter, but didn't drive in anything really nasty at all. They get pretty warm so I can't imagine it would be an issue, assuming perhaps ice / snow buildup may be an issue?

Warm? Really??? I just left these ones on for about 45 minutes on high beam and they aren't even lukewarm to the touch? They are pretty much the same temp as the rest of the truck, they haven't really put out any extra heat at all.

Yours get warm?

Updated porn for the masses:

[diesel_jim]

^^^^^ Nice looking 110 Mike... it's a blue brother of my one! even down to the cage.

[rijosho]

Looks great! Can we get a pic with those lights ON? :)

[ECR]

Here are some shots. Have no idea how to take good pictures with headlights on, but will give it a better try some evening.
These are H4s with upgraded bulbs on the BRG 90 and the LEDs on the Blue 110.

[rover26c]

From looking at the pics the LEDS are brighter than the H4s.

Here are some shots. Have no idea how to take good pictures with headlights on, but will give it a better try some evening.
These are H4s with upgraded bulbs on the BRG 90 and the LEDs on the Blue 110.

------ Follow up post added May 20th, 2010 11:37 AM ------

Both are awesome!

[dave_lucas]

Hard to tell much from just looking at them with the lights on, most light comparisons I have seen are typically done pointing out at an object from the same distance at night or in the dark.

I am guessing you are a busy guy so it might not be worth your time but might be useful for your (paying) customers to compare the beam pattern / brightness between stock, upgraded and LED.

Here is a review that I came across when buying a new bike light for my wife as an example of what I am talking about.

http://acidinmylegs.blogspot.com/2007/09/trinewt-and-600l-beam-shots.html

That little light uses 3 little LED’s but it is amazingly bright (sadly costs as much as a set of the LED headlights but cars should see her)

[rlynch356]

Any thoughts on how they are to drive with (the LED's) i really like the bullet proof ness of them and the ease of the install (i am running an ARB wiring harness + hella E-codes and uprated 100w (?) bulbs) and want a bit better light all in all. i was looking at the 90mm bi-xenon units from hella (would require some surgery to make it work and trim peices, etc - basically a Pita but do-able)

This would be a far simplier solution

[Red90]

... i was looking at the 90mm bi-xenon units from hella (would require some surgery to make it work and trim peices, etc - basically a Pita but do-able)

This would be a far simplier solution

What about the Sylvania 7" Bi-xenons?

What is really needed is a side by side comparison.... It the the only way to get a good review.

ECR must be able to do that as they have a parking lot full of Defenders????

[rlynch356]

those were another option (and a good one really)

[ECR]

What about the Sylvania 7" Bi-xenons?

What is really needed is a side by side comparison.... It the the only way to get a good review.

ECR must be able to do that as they have a parking lot full of Defenders????

No trucks here with HIDs.

We'll get to some sort of test someday, but other than for shits and grins there isn't much motivation (as we don't sell any of this stuff).:)... and this time of year we are f'ing swmped with Nantucket and Marthas Vineyard trucks that have to all be done and delivered prior to Memorial Day weekend.:eek::):)

[Red90]

No trucks here with HIDs.

Sorry...too many subjects at once...

A comparison to "stock" headlights and/or a high quality halogen if you have one. Park side by each in front of a wall when it is dark. Compare brightness and beam pattern. 15 minutes of your time.... :)

[KKilo23]

No trucks here with HIDs.

We'll get to some sort of test someday, but other than for shits and grins there isn't much motivation (as we don't sell any of this stuff).:)... and this time of year we are f'ing swmped with Nantucket and Marthas Vineyard trucks that have to all be done and delivered prior to Memorial Day weekend.:eek::):)

Can't wait to see some of these trucks this summer out there..:cool:

[junkyddog11]

Warm? Really??? I just left these ones on for about 45 minutes on high beam and they aren't even lukewarm to the touch? They are pretty much the same temp as the rest of the truck, they haven't really put out any extra heat at all.

Yours get warm?

:

These went from 61deg off to 72deg low beam and 78deg high beam. So you are right, they don't put out shit for heat, and I have no clue as to how ambient temps effect this.

I'd suppose someone with a little more time / search talent could find out more eh?

[rijosho]

Thanks for those pics, Mike. Gives a better idea of how the blue-ish light looks on the Defender.

[ECR]

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[surf110]

Looks great Mike.
FYI. That Td5 exhaust will melt the powder coat on the ladder bottom tab. HAd to re route mine a little bit to the side.

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