European trailer plug to flat 4 harness

[brn24whl]

Atlantic British is now making the European trailer plug to flat 4 harness that would of been in the factory wiring harnesses in the 1990's through early 2000's.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/9438.cfm?bc=ab

[evilfij]

Finally, one that is LONG enough to be of use. It took me forever to find one when I was looking. The one that comes in the genuine kit is really short.

[brn24whl]

Wow that was unplanned. I bought my wife a 96 P38 and it had one in the back we just copied that one.

[evilfij]

I have discussed this before on D-90.com

The new genuine "kit" sold is the one for a DI/RRC/D90 is really a DI part. The correct old syle D90/D110 one (and, as you note, the p38a one) has the proper long cable to reach from the side mount. On a DI or RRC the plug is right next to the hitch so you can get by (barely) with the short one.

[brn24whl]

Ron

Thanks for the info the web should be all updated tonight with the cars this fits

Eric

[phoenix37]

This does NOT fit a range rover classic plug. Just showed up and I need to send it back.

[hillstrubl]

What about adding (or replacing) a North American style 7-blade plug to the rear? does each European pin and associated wire correspond with one of the NA blades?

[phoenix37]

Eric you may want to update your website to reflect this doesnt work on the classic Range Rover.

[MonLand]

According to http://www.etrailer.com/faq-wiring.aspx the 7 pin flat plug is just an extension of the 4-pin. Don't think that will help much with the euro standard.

John, what did not work with the classic? The euro plug is "standard" just the euro->us adaptor is something added to the truck. The euro to 4-pin adaptor is simply a plug converter nothing much to it.

[phoenix37]

The 7 pin plug on my classic is much smaller than the one on this kit. This one worked but the other one has a bigger 7 pin plug.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/9439A.cfm

[MonLand]

I think there is a misunderstanding. The "new" part is basically an extension cord + euro trailer plug->us 4-pin converter. You can't use this without the adaptor that takes the tail light and stop light signal and convert them into a single signal (in Europe stop light and tail lights -have- to have a separate bulb).
The part (9439A) you gave us a link to does -not- use the euro trailer plug, instead it takes the internal rover trailer harness, mix the tail/stop light signal together -and- outputs 4-pin plug.

[phoenix37]

aha! that explains it.

[evilfij]

Yup, sorry if I contributed to the misunderstanding. I assumed you had the genuine kit and lost this adaptor, not that you had some aftermarket kit that fell off completely.

Ron

[phoenix37]

Yeah i lost the whole assembly and thought this would be a cheap replacement. Oh well I learned something new.

[hillstrubl]

What about adding (or replacing) a North American style 7-blade plug to the rear? does each European pin and associated wire correspond with one of the NA blades?

I think there is a misunderstanding. The "new" part is basically an extension cord + euro trailer plug->us 4-pin converter. You can't use this without the adaptor that takes the tail light and stop light signal and convert them into a single signal (in Europe stop light and tail lights -have- to have a separate bulb).
The part (9439A) you gave us a link to does -not- use the euro trailer plug, instead it takes the internal rover trailer harness, mix the tail/stop light signal together -and- outputs 4-pin plug.
gotcha, So i'd need something with smarter wiring to combine the signals regardless.

I only asked bc I have a 3' long 7-blade to 4-pin flat adapter left over from my mom's old suburban, and the universal 7-blade flat mount plugs are about $15 @ autozone.

[geoellis]

On my '95 D90 I have the 7-pin Euro plug, which is connected directly to the 7-pin wiring harness in the right side wheel well. There is no converter box. I also have the adapter that Eric lists here in this post, which is from my '98 P38.

When I connect the trailer all of the lights work except for the brakes, which makes sense given Euro standard of a separate connection for the brakes. Instead of installing a converter box is it possible to jump the brake wire into the left/right signal wires inside the 7-pin end of the adapter above? I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like it should work.