Early 90 for sale - 200tdi defender retro fit

[mikeslandrover]

:)Early 90 for sale.:)

It's got a defender 200tdi engine, low miles on an Ashcroft main gearbox, discovery transfer box, +2' suspension, '86 Range Rover rear axle with disc brakes. The Chassis is pretty solid with a box section rear cross member, very solid & no rust traps. It's a hard top with plain sides(no windows). It is apparently one of the early press release vehicles.
It's a beater used extensively off-road, the panels are not very straight at all. Oh and there is some rust on the bulkhead under the windscreen.
I'm open to offers on this, my off-roading is confined to two wheels, sometimes one, usually followed by a big off nowadays:)
I'll get some pictures next weekend if anyone is interested.

[Ren Ching]

price/pics?

thanks

db

:)Early 90 for sale.:)

It's got a defender 200tdi engine, low miles on an Ashcroft main gearbox, discovery transfer box, +2' suspension, '86 Range Rover rear axle with disc brakes. The Chassis is pretty solid with a box section rear cross member, very solid & no rust traps. It's a hard top with plain sides(no windows). It is apparently one of the early press release vehicles.
It's a beater used extensively off-road, the panels are not very straight at all. Oh and there is some rust on the bulkhead under the windscreen.
I'm open to offers on this, my off-roading is confined to two wheels, sometimes one, usually followed by a big off nowadays:)
I'll get some pictures next weekend if anyone is interested.

[mikeslandrover]

As it stands - rusty bulkhead fitted but with a good bulkhead to replace the old one, somewhere in the region of £1500. I'm open to offers though. I want a motorbike trailer in the space currently occupied by the 90. Pictures will follow this week end. The hard top is removed at the moment so it fits in the garage.:)

[mgreenspan]

Tax and test?

[mikeslandrover]

Tax and test?

Oh no, none of that.:eek:

[mgreenspan]

How many miles on the engine? Or miles since last major service?

[mikeslandrover]

How many miles on the engine? Or miles since last major service?

Well the Engine was an unknown entity when I bought it from AJS but has proven to be a good 'n'.
When I laid the Land Rover up a couple of years ago I drained the engine oil and put in fresh.
If I bought it I'd change the timing belt as a matter of course.
Oil was changed every 5000 miles while i had it.

[sonoronos]

Any chance you'd sell to someone in the US?

[mikeslandrover]

Any chance you'd sell to someone in the US?

That's why it's posted here:)

[cgalpin]

Oh quit beating around the bush. Mike, meet Ed. Ed meet Mike. Mike, Ed needs a defender. Hook a brother up please.

[mikeslandrover]

Oh quit beating around the bush. Mike, meet Ed. Ed meet Mike. Mike, Ed needs a defender. Hook a brother up please.
It's been cluttering up my garage, I have a 110", so the 90 needs to go. Yes I'll sell it to someone in the US. I'll get pictures this weekend.
It's over 25 years old so it's just right to export over the pond.:)
Dug out an old photo - taken on a winch challenge event - no winch and didn't come last.

[sonoronos]

pms sent!

[rijosho]

Looks awesome.

Whose white ST was that in the background?

[Rugbier]

Mike post pictures, I might be interested , since Ed takes too long, I might then resale to him for a premium of free meals at our Happy Hour for the rest of time *LOL*

[jefhuf]

If Ed hasn't bought a truck by the next HH he has to buy anyway!

Ed, work something out with Mike cause this looks like a great truck for you

[AmityD90]

Dug out an old photo - taken on a winch challenge event - no winch and didn't come last.

:thumbs

I love that.

[mikeslandrover]

Just caught up on all the PMs I'm replying now.

------ Follow up post added April 7th, 2011 09:14 PM ------

Looks awesome.

Whose white ST was that in the background?

It's a white NAS 90. We were pausing for breath oh and rebuilding his front brake pipes that had some how got ripped out. I think reversing through thick undergrowth may well have had something to do with it:cool:

[sonoronos]

If Ed hasn't bought a truck by the next HH he has to buy anyway!

Only if we get a waiter that doesn't charge us triple for our beer! :(

[mikeslandrover]

I'll pay proper attention to the Pm's from now on. sorry for the delay.:)

[cgalpin]

Only if we get a waiter that doesn't charge us triple for our beer! :(

Who cares when you are buying!

[quick128]

Mike post pictures, I might be interested , since Ed takes too long, I might then resale to him for a premium of free meals at our Happy Hour for the rest of time *LOL*

buy it, get it here, and i'll give you my D2 and $1500 for it. Seriously.

P.S. do you want those boost wheels???

[130Tdi]

looks like a hell of a truck for $2430

[Rugbier]

buy it, get it here, and i'll give you my D2 and $1500 for it. Seriously.

P.S. do you want those boost wheels???

Yes, I've sent you the email back saying, do you want paypal ahead or cash when I see you in couple of weeks.

I am seriously considering buying this truck ( waiting for a friend to make up his f#@king mind *LOL* )

[quick128]

Yes, I've sent you the email back saying, do you want paypal ahead or cash when I see you in couple of weeks.

I am seriously considering buying this truck ( waiting for a friend to make up his f#@king mind *LOL* )


I guess I didn't get it or over looked it. Whatever payment option you want. Doesn't matter to me. Buy the thing and sell it me!

[sonoronos]

Hold on a second Goose, you only get one rover project at a time. Finish up that NAS first before you start turning into Charles or something :)

[Rugbier]

Hold on a second Goose, you only get one rover project at a time. Finish up that NAS first before you start turning into Charles or something :)

Dear Ed,

If you were not sooooooooooooooooooo slow , you will know that the d90 has been done already, so I will recommend you move fast on this well priced unit.

Truly

Goose a.k.a. Sambumba hater *LMAO*



to the OP... I take 10% commission in rover parts *LOL*

[sonoronos]

Dear Ed,

If you were not sooooooooooooooooooo slow , you will know that the d90 has been done already, so I will recommend you move fast on this well priced unit.

Woah, that was quick...now are you gonna wheel it? :)

[Rugbier]

Woah, that was quick...now are you gonna wheel it? :)

Yes, indeed.

And you are more than welcome to wheel it too :)

[mikeslandrover]

A pleasant day wielding the spanners has got the 90 dragged out the garage and reassembled.
Fired up with no problems and drives as it should, the clutch didn't even stick after it's lay-up:party:party
Here's a couple of photos as promised. More tomorrow.

[Roving Beetle]

Are you willing to help arrange shipping for the beast?

[mikeslandrover]

Are you willing to help arrange shipping for the beast?

I'd do what I could from this end, but can't take it to the docks.

[Roving Beetle]

What would be involved in getting her to where she needed to be to be loaded for transport?

PM or email me if you'd rather?

TDI *at* desertboat *dot* com

Cheers,
Doug

[mikeslandrover]

Here's some more photos.

[mgreenspan]

What's keeping it from passing MoT?

[mikeslandrover]

What's keeping it from passing MoT?

Nothing, as far as I'm aware.

[cgalpin]

More importantly, why hasn't Ed bought this yet? I swear I'll buy soon it just to spite him.

[mikeslandrover]

More importantly, why hasn't Ed bought this yet? I swear I'll buy soon it just to spite him.

Patience:cool:

Other things I forgot to mention in the specs. Jate rings front and rear, D rings on the front bumper, welded recovery rings on the rear bumper & high level axle breathers front and rear. The interior is fully 'hose out able' it was an off roader.:)

My new off-roader: much easier to unstick

[Rugbier]

More importantly, why hasn't Ed bought this yet? I swear I'll buy soon it just to spite him.


Want to buy half and half ( that way I can lie to T and you can lie to D )? :)

[mgreenspan]

Mike, is there an MoT shop near you down in Surrey? I know about six guys at work looking for trucks like this though with no easy access to a trailer and most of us on horrible work schedules the best way for any of them to buy would be to train down and drive home.

[mikeslandrover]

Join the queue, maybe I under priced this truck:rolleyes

[mikeslandrover]

Bulkhead has been dug out the back of the garage, it's looking good only very small patches of surface rust.
I swear LR leave them outside to weather before they paint them:angry
Photo to follow:)

[sonoronos]

payment sent!

Goose and Charles, you guys are shameless!! I would sooner trust you to a roomful of fair haired virgins than a rover looking for a new owner :)

[cgalpin]

You're welcome. You can buy us a drink at the next happy hour.

[rijosho]

Wow. Congrats, Ed!

[mikeslandrover]

Payment received:toast:clap
Sorry everyone else. Ed seems to be the owner of a 90.

[sonoronos]

I'm bringing celebration ciggies for Gore. I'll buy drinks once the darn truck gets here :)

[cgalpin]

Sweet!

[sonoronos]

Wow. Congrats, Ed!

Thanks, and thanks very much to Charles and Jeff who busted my balls with a jackhammer! Jeff especially for scoping deals out for me the past year.

[rijosho]

Thanks, and thanks very much to Charles and Jeff who busted my balls with a jackhammer! Jeff especially for scoping deals out for me the past year.

Sweet. Now you and Jeff can enter winch competitions without winches!

[edh]

Always a bridesmaid never a bride. I was 2'nd in line again. I hate you interweb.
Best of luck w/ your new 90.
Ed

[Rugbier]

Thanks, and thanks very much to Charles and Jeff who busted my balls with a jackhammer! Jeff especially for scoping deals out for me the past year.

You know asshat, you could thank me for not sending the payment while nursing your undecided mind *LMAO*


I say, beers on you next HH and filet mignon dinner next time at OutBack GWNF :)

------ Follow up post added April 11th, 2011 09:58 PM ------

payment sent!

Goose and Charles, you guys are shameless!! I would sooner trust you to a roomful of fair haired virgins than a rover looking for a new owner :)


BTW... when are we getting treated to the Virgins? *LMAO*

[draaronr]

nice score Ed.

[mikeslandrover]

I'm bringing celebration ciggies for Gore. I'll buy drinks once the darn truck gets here :)

Now we've just got to organize the collection of the truck... buying took a huge number of pm's.:)

[sonoronos]

You know asshat, you could thank me for not sending the payment while nursing your undecided mind *LMAO*

Are you coming to Gore??

[Rugbier]

Are you coming to Gore??


yes I will

[cgalpin]

I think he means this weekend...

[rrc.swb]

payment sent!

Goose and Charles, you guys are shameless!! I would sooner trust you to a roomful of fair haired virgins than a rover looking for a new owner :)Nice. Great to see that got a D90. :thumbs

Are you coming to Gore??
I think he means this weekend...Wait… What? OCC? Where the f#*k was I?? :crazy

[cgalpin]

Wait… What? OCC? Where the f#*k was I?? :crazy
Who the F knows where you have been. But they have 3" stumps there remember. ROFL

[rrc.swb]

Who the F knows where you have been. But they have 3" stumps there remember. ROFLI'd better stay on my mall crawling rides then.

[mikeslandrover]

Ed, here's the pictures you wanted to see.
It's on its way.

[sonoronos]

Mike, those pictures are awesome. Thanks for documenting this :)

[mikeslandrover]

Mike, those pictures are awesome. Thanks for documenting this :)

No problem, I'd be really interested to hear/see what you do with the truck once you get it - truck build-ups & restores, I'll be watching.:)
The D-90 Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions
MY 90 has died.
This details the most annoying problem that occured with the 90. Took me weeks to figure out. The filter on the bottom of the fuel pick-up was put back on at a later date. The lift pump blocked and had to be replaced.

[sonoronos]

Well, update for the curious - the little one is on its way over (hopefully) calm waters! I'll post up more details when the truck is stateside and the importation is complete.

[jefhuf]

There seem to be a few containers missing from the back rows...hope your truck wasn't in one of the ones that went overboard! :grin

[mikeslandrover]

There was much curiosity over here too, whole families made watching the loading an afternoon out.:cool::rolleyes:)
Look in the background:)

[ssbartley1]

At least you wont have to hose it out......:eek:

[mikeslandrover]

Worse things happen at sea:(

[sonoronos]

I might have seen these guys skulking outside Jay's at the last Happy Hour. Stay away from my boat!

BTW, Mike, that picture of the mother sitting on the sidewalk with her child is one of the funniest and cutest things I've ever seen.

[nathanwind]

Ed:

Just a point of interest...I'm pretty sure the moderators may have a problem with you using the word "cutest" on this forum. Please refrain in the future. Acceptable substitutions would be "badass", "kickass", or "knocked my dick in the dirt".

[sonoronos]

Ed:

Just a point of interest...I'm pretty sure the moderators may have a problem with you using the word "cutest" on this forum. Please refrain in the future. Acceptable substitutions would be "badass", "kickass", or "knocked my dick in the dirt".

Thanks for setting me straight lav, lol.

[nathanwind]

Just trying to show you the ropes :).

PS - make sure that even when you do get the 90 in hand...you still must leave your avatar as-is. It's my favorite.

PPS - eta for your 90?

[NoVaKevin]

where did you find this d90? pics?

[nathanwind]

Check out pg 1 & 2 of this thread for pics.

[sonoronos]

Just picked up a letter full of goodies from the post - arrived on 4/28, but I haven't had a chance to pick it up 'til now :)

Mike, I will mail out the necessary documentation as per instructions, ASAP.

I'm looking forward to adding the import docs as well as a Virginia title and registration to the pile of MOT you sent. I'm going to make a "vehicle binder" like the classic car guys do so I can take care of the vehicle history.

[mikeslandrover]

Glad the documents got there alright.
If you send the registration document back signed just as soon as you've finished with it for importation purposes it will be much appreciated.

[Rugbier]

you better get those freaking wheels out of my garage on the way to VA ;-)

[sonoronos]

Christmas came early this year and Santa (Doug) arrived on his sleigh (White 130) and quite thoughtfully had the D90 off the trailer, idling and waiting for me when I got to my apartment. Sorry to make you wait in the rain!

Much excitement on my end, having now driven the Defender a short tenth of a mile or so to the parking lot at work. Quite thankful it's not at the bottom of the ocean anywhere collecting mollusks :)

Now to just wait for the arrival of some paperwork and I'll be able to drive it around town without making a fuss!

[cgalpin]

Sweet. Ed I just remembered I have some series roof sides here that you might be interested in. No glass, but I assume you can get some cut cheap. You'd need seals and some paint too I guess. Anyway, yours if you want them.

[Ren Ching]

Congrats Ed! Can't wait to see it in person. You going to drive it to HH on the UK plates? Don't think the series roofsides will fit, but madcowdungbeetle on here was selling a nice pair of d90 window sides a while back. The windows are very helpful when making right turns in a RHD truck.

[mikeslandrover]

Sweet. Ed I just remembered I have some series roof sides here that you might be interested in. No glass, but I assume you can get some cut cheap. You'd need seals and some paint too I guess. Anyway, yours if you want them.

Don't think they'll fit a 90, it's longer from the back of the door to the back of the body than an 88.:confused

Anyway, glad it arrived safe and sound. What are your plans for it? Bearing in mind it was an early press release vehicle...:)

[cgalpin]

Wasn't sure, sorry. I figured I'd offer them up as I'll bet he'll want windows at some point.

Don't think the series roofsides will fit

Don't think they'll fit a 90, it's longer from the back of the door to the back of the body than an 88.:confused

[sonoronos]

Anyway, glad it arrived safe and sound. What are your plans for it? Bearing in mind it was an early press release vehicle...:)

Mike, my somewhat naive plan is to change the timing belt/water pump, fuel/oil filters, brake pads, do a full fluid change, wheel the truck as is for a bit, then galvanize the frame and bulkhead and repaint the vehicle. Can you explain in more detail what it means for a vehicle to be early press release? Is there something about it that I should be preserving in order to keep that status?

By the way, great job on the truck's mechanicals - it looks to have been taken care of very well :)

Charles - what's the difference between what I have on there now and the sides that would be on a Series? Is it the absence of the internal horizontal strengthening bar?

[hillstrubl]

congrats, looks cool.

You can always cut the van sides and add some general RV sliding windows too. (like mine had done to it)

[mikeslandrover]

Mike, my somewhat naive plan is to change the timing belt/water pump, wheel the truck as is for a bit, then galvanize the frame and bulkhead and repaint the vehicle. Can you explain in more detail what it means for a vehicle to be early press release? Is there something about it that I should be preserving in order to keep that status?

By the way, great job on the truck's mechanicals - it looks to have been taken care of very well :)

Thanks for the thumbs up on the mechanicals, pity I didn't hold the bodywork in such high regard... as I said in the sales blurb it was an off-roader.

As for the first point... timing belt yes do that disaster if it breaks, water pump, if it aint broke don't fix it:)

Well I rolled up at a off-road event early in my time of ownership to be told that it was one of the first 90's and owned by Land Rover and lent out to motoring press hacks to thrash round in and then write nice things about it in the press. That was around the time of the launch of the 90.
I never really cared greatly and went to no lengths at-all to preserve that originality - engine swap, back axle swap, roof and sides swap, drilling holes in the body with utter abandon in order to secure off road kit or let water out:eek:, scraping the sides down gullies to narrow for it to fit down... the list of abuses goes on and on... it used to have a truck cab and a truely knackered 2.3ltr petrol engine that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding and still managed to consume 1 imperial gallon of fuel for every 12 (very slow) miles travelled. I did however leave it brown despite much stick from my off-roading mates who wouldn't even consider owning something that colour even if it was given to them...

Anyway the number plate says Land Rover Ltd and that makes it special.:)

The farmer who owned it before me was even worse, using the truck cab roof as a handy mobile step to reach high things (crushing it slowly in the process) and every crevice was full of straw and cow poo.

Just enjoy it, fit a new galvanised frame (chassis) don't get the old one galvanized, the paint isn't always removed from the inside of the frame properly, its damaged by the galvanizing process and then the chassis, whilst looking very pretty on the outside, rusts in double quick time from the inside out and you have to fit a new chassis.:eek::(:angry
I've galvanized the bulkhead on my 110 but the paint hasn't stuck very well... there's whole threads devoted to this but on the whole I'm pleased. I started with a very good condition bulkhead just like the one tied into the back of your 90 (It was still there wasn't it?), but I'd think VERY carefully about galvanizing a 26 year old chassis that's had some welding done already. The amount of clay I pressure washed out of the main rails while I was fitting the rear cross member had to be seen to be believed. But from what I could see the paint on the inside was sound and I gave it a good waxoyling.
Any questions just ask.

------ Follow up post added May 18th, 2011 10:28 PM ------

Mike, my somewhat naive plan is to change the timing belt/water pump, fuel/oil filters, brake pads, do a full fluid change, wheel the truck as is for a bit

That will work, it was my daily driver for over 2 years while the 110 was in many separate pieces being rebuilt and was very much more reliable than when it was off-roaded then parked for a couple of weeks. UJ's, brake pads etc seemed to need replacing constantly. Never let me down as a daily driver and always got me home as an off-roader but sometimes needed a lot of work before being driven again. It was finally parked up autumn of 2008 and then trials bikes reared their ugly head and it's been down hill ever since.:)

[D90]

im intrested in your rover send some pics and do u no what it will cost to import im in the us

[mikeslandrover]

im intrested in your rover send some pics and do u no what it will cost to import im in the us

If you're looking to buy this particular Land Rover, it's sold, sorry.
Speak to dividing creak imports about the costs. The trucks have to be over 25 years old to be legal.

Maybe the thread needs moving as it's morphing into a rebuild or running repairs whilst 'wheeling' sort of thread.

[130Tdi]

Drat- my Uk tow company and shipping lines exposed-lol ! No worries on the rain Ed. Mike was a delight to work with and far more cooperative and accomodating than most UK sellers-very solid truck for those who were wondering. Glad everyone was happy with the transaction.

[mikeslandrover]

Drat- my Uk tow company and shipping lines exposed-lol ! No worries on the rain Ed. Mike was a delight to work with and far more cooperative and accomodating than most UK sellers-very solid truck for those who were wondering. Glad everyone was happy with the transaction.

You too were good to work with.:grin
Yep, the truck was solid, extensively dented, but solid.:crazy