People who hate the H2

[jgoodyear]

http://fuh2.com/index.php


a little on the silly side but funny none the less.

[Doug]

This does not bode well. What if the lefties find out about Defender mileage??? 8-0

[jgoodyear]

WEll, that is very true I never bothered to figure out what my milage was, I jsut new i was on very familar tems with the gas pump. I know the 35 inch tires did not help or the areo dynamics of a GE fridge.. But then again i can't imagian thare are more than 7000 d90s left in the USA...

[ELCIDd90]

"The H2 is a death machine. You'd better hope that you don't collide with an H2 in your economy car. You can kiss your ass goodbye thanks to the H2's massive weight and raised bumpers. Too bad you couldn't afford an urban assault vehicle of your own. Or could you...?

I wonder what a D90 with an ARB and winch would be?

[jgoodyear]

A deturant, I can't say as i had anyone try adn cut me off with my ARB winch bumper... Plus just the sound of the D90 coming down the road with the MT tires scares most off. I did pull up to a honda Civic, nose to nose and was pretty sure I could porably get a long way up the hood...

[sherpamike]

someone should send in the picture on the first page of discoweb......but on second thought I don't think we want those crazies turning on rovers next.

[Doug]

Yes, shhhhh!! Don't let them find us! ;)

[Burke]

I say we launch an all out attack on hybrid car owners.

[flippedrover]

I wonder what a D90 with an ARB and winch would be?

I'd call it a nice starting point for more mods :grin

[snuffer]

Sounds like they just have GVW envy.

As for the fossil fuel thing; Nuke their a.. and take their gas!!

[rover4x4]

I remember a while back rob goodall had a collinson with an H2 needless to say they Defender won by a longshot.

[Mike Hippert]

"The H2 is a death machine. You'd better hope that you don't collide with an H2 in your economy car. You can kiss your ass goodbye thanks to the H2's massive weight and raised bumpers. Too bad you couldn't afford an urban assault vehicle of your own. Or could you...?

But they forgot what happpens when they hit a dump truck weighing 25 tons! A dump truck (or any truck that big) could hit a small car and not even know it. My friend was driving to work one day, he changed lanes and got infront of a dump truck while driving his Toyota. The dump truck did not see him and hit him and started pushing him, the dumptruck driver did not stop until people in other cars got out and got his attention. I think at least a person driving a H2 or Defender would at least see and stop if they hit something.



I say we launch an all out attack on hybrid car owners.
NO Damit! If they start making hybrid cars cheaper then there will be less cars on the road burning gas, then the prices of gas will fall and I'll be happy!

[UpnOver]

here is a good smash

[JBurt]

My buddy had a Lobster Fab FJ60 and had a Camry run a red light into him. Broke his headlight, totalled Camry, all at 10 mph.
I took the opportunity to test drive an H2, needless to say I bought the Defender. Of course, I didn't save for 6 years to buy a crappy a$$ glorified grocery getter. You don't see me stopping to look at H2's but I know 2 have stopped to look at mine.
Either way, bought a commuter car because it saves me about $125 a week (140 miles a day) and I do care about the environment. Can't 4-wheel a truck on asphalt now can you?

[paulb]

Please remember, the Defender is but one of many extensions of english motoring development. If, as I assume you are, an owner of a LR and best yet a Defender, then refrain as much as you can from picking on the defenceless. Have pity on those arround you who turn, through ignorance, to the H2 or equivilent thinking it is the nervana. You my friends have a Defender, a fine english motor that 99% of the driving population do not understand, but seem to turn their heads to look and smile towards. There are 280 million people in the US, and what, 7000 D90s on the road. We are truely fortunate to have seen the light.

[JBurt]

Humbled... Humbled...

[paulb]

And yet again, this very afternoon, some guy just stopped off to look at the d90. Owns a disco and always wanted a defender. Aimed him at this site as several are for sale. It truely is a beautiful piece of english design.

[bd90]

7000 D90's? That's quite a bit more than I had thought. According to Land Rover FAQ site, if my math serves me, there were a total of about 6000 D90's sold. Subtract all that have since been shipped out of the country MINUS stolen & shipped MINUS wrecked/burned/destroyed, etc, etc. and 5000 to 5500 seems like a more plausible number (not including 110's). Has anyone got different numbers? It's disappointing that only a fraction of the Defender owners know about and use this site. I would have thought we would have more members.

[paulb]

I thought the math went like this: Imports from 1994 to 1997:
4 years of imports at 1500 to 2000 a year. Results:
6000 to 8000 + 500 100s would be the total.
These are unscientific numbers, and I give them no sustainable validation other that a web hunt I did sometime in the last 3 years. If I recall, I hit on a canadian Rover site that had listed all the US imports (no idea why they did it but this is rover land so go figure).
From ebay and this site, a scan outlines at least 50 wrecked. With these things about to average 10 years only (hey Ford, 2005-2006 10 year anniversery for D90 reintroduction!! - not) I wouldn't argue the 5000 number.
Anyone got fact to my fiction?

[JBurt]

I thought it was 3 years of imports because '96 was left over '95s...
Maybe I read it wrong though.

[scubadanster]

wait a sec.....confused now!

lol!

does anyone know how many 1997 d-90's were sent to the USA??

-dan

[Mike Hippert]

http://www.lrfaq.org/Defender/FAQ.Def.NAS_Defender_VINs.html

[scubadanster]

interesting...

hey mike, do you know if the earlier 1997s were the exact same as the latter 1997s??

-dan

[Mike Hippert]

Nope, I only know whats on that website, so it looks like a total of what 6,530 D-90s and 535 D-110s.

[Burke]

The opposition wins another...

http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/13/pf/autos/bc.autos.ford.suvs.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

[dmarchand]

The opposition wins another...

http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/13/pf/autos/bc.autos.ford.suvs.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

I dunno, I thought that thing was DOA when it first came on the scene anyway. The Suburban already had it's market. I'm not surprised. I think it has much less to do with any discredit it had as a gas guzzler, although I'm sure it never helped. Seems it's market share was just too small.

Reminds me, had a great trip through Mexico and Belize in a suburban. That thing was a tank. :cool:

[bd90]

According to lrfaq.org the numbers are a bit higher than I thought at 6426 D90's. According to the site, Nov and Dec 1993 sales are D90's whereas the previous months sales figs reflect 110 sales. My thought was that D90's purchased in the U.S. when they were introduced would have a tendency to find their way to Canada and Mexico and maybe some overseas somewhere. Add this to the other probable numbers for defenders that have been rendered useless, for whatever reason, and it seems plausible to me that 800-900 NAS D90's are no longer with us after 10 years in U.S. Maybe I am overshooting that but at any rate, I would have expected many more owners to join this site. Oh well.