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Rick Carlisle
December 12th, 2003, 08:10 PM
I am looking to change my steering wheel, but not sure to what. I just do not like the stock wheel. I am curious what aftermarket steering wheels others have used. I like the one on the orange D-90 on ebay (see link under misc. chit chat...wish I could figure out this damn link stuff) but don't know the source. I know I do not want one too small.

Thanks in advance for any info.

KeithD
December 15th, 2003, 12:56 PM
I think the normal replacement is a Mountney? I dunno which ones fit LRs but here's a link.

http://www.quillertriumph.co.uk/Quiller/Parts/accessories/mountney%20wheels.htm

I know that early Austin Metro and Montego cars have the same fitting but they are no very pretty!

Buckon37s
December 15th, 2003, 04:36 PM
I believe the orange D-90 in Momo. They did make a replacement but do not anymore. You can make any steering wheel work by cutting the core out of your wheel and mating it to a bracket and bolting the new steering wheel to that. Took about an hour.

roverboy
December 15th, 2003, 06:54 PM
I have a Momo Competition II in my D-90 and in my opinion it's probably the single greatest add on that's been done to the truck. I have driven tons of D-90's and it is truly amazing how much more comfortable it is to drive my truck with this upgrade. I have heard from several owners how "the large steering wheel was designed by Land Rover to help make minor adjustments off road...blah, blah, blah." trust me, with my little Momo, I have more room to get in and out of the truck, it's more comfortable to grip, and makes driving in stop and go traffic & long interstate hauls about as pleasant as possible. As far as offroad handling, I like it TONS better than the stock wagon wheel it came with, and I have never felt limited in any way by having it installed. I dont know if Momo still makes this steering wheel or not, but I'd certainly recommend it to anyone.

Rick Carlisle
December 15th, 2003, 10:24 PM
A while back someone was trying to get an adapter made for the Momo wheels to fit on the 90. Apparently, they never could get the minimum number of people together to place the order. David, I have read somewhere the procedure you suggest. Maybe that is what I end up doing.

Thomas, I would be very interested in seeing your steering wheel, if you could post a picture. I would prefer something a little larger than most of the racing wheels. Like the orange 90 on ebay has. But a momo wheel would be so much better than what's on my truck now. I can't seem to leave anything stock, but especially something like the steering wheel, which I really dislike.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Doug
December 16th, 2003, 12:02 AM
The wheel adapter deal is still in the works. Email me and I'll send you Matt Bremner's email address. He's keeping a list of folks that want a momo adapter. We are still looking for a source but there is a good sized group.

Doug

Rick Carlisle
December 16th, 2003, 07:59 AM
Doug, you have mail.

mgrgpg
December 16th, 2003, 08:11 AM
Doug,

Add me to the list also please...Let me know what the adapter looks like, perhaps I can make a batch for you in my shop.

Mark

TDI Guy
December 16th, 2003, 08:58 AM
Ask Matt about making the adapters. He was looking for a shop to make them. There is a thread about this on the old board that I posted.

Randy

milli
December 16th, 2003, 12:01 PM
I just need to decide which canyon to throw my steering wheel off. I'm in. Where can we see a momo wheel?

Doug
December 16th, 2003, 02:26 PM
Mark, please send me a private message. I dont' want to post Matt's email address on the board.

Rick, your private message mailbox is full!

Doug

Ntajeep
December 16th, 2003, 02:39 PM
Actually only received limited number of hub's, are selling them according to who replied to first thread. If any left over will sell them here no problem. We only managed to find 12 in the whole world!!!!!!

Sorry,
Matt

Mike Hippert
December 16th, 2003, 02:52 PM
What about these guys, http://www.equipe4x4.com/tabella_accessori.html about 1/2 way down the page????? I know they are on the other side of the pond but it's a start.

Rick Carlisle
December 16th, 2003, 03:31 PM
Matt, I replied on the first thread, if you mean the one months ago. Do you have one for me? i didn't know they were made.

Doug, I will open some space on my private mailbox. Thanks.

Rick

Doug
December 16th, 2003, 06:15 PM
Pleeze, me too!!! ;))))))))))))))))

Lol,

Doug

Ntajeep
December 17th, 2003, 11:51 AM
Sadly, I am not the one in charge of their distribution, someone else on the list has taken charge of that point. I was just the one who pursued them through MOMO to find as many as I could. Then told him how many I had, and he is handling the distribution.

Sorry,
Matt

Doug
December 17th, 2003, 01:59 PM
Matt, since there is such demand, how about holding on to one of them to make copies? Mark said he can probably make some....

Doug W.

mgrgpg
December 17th, 2003, 02:10 PM
Send me a part and I can take the measurements and see what it would cost to make.

Chaucer
December 19th, 2003, 02:16 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2449441351

Rick Carlisle
December 19th, 2003, 07:54 AM
Will,

Thanks for the notice. I have placed a bid. If I get it, I can have it shipped to you, Mark, in New York to machine some copies.

Rick

Rick Carlisle
December 19th, 2003, 08:00 AM
Will,

Thanks for the notice. I have placed a bid. If I get it, I can have it shipped to you, Mark, in New York to machine some copies.

Rick

Buckon37s
December 19th, 2003, 11:15 AM
Guys,

You don't have to spend 80 bucks. All you have to do is take your steering wheel to a good machine shop and they can easily make you a custom adapter that you can drill yourself so you can use ANY steering wheel, not just Momo. Plus, it does not stick the steering wheel 4in closer to you either, in case you are over 5'5'' No need to re-invent the wheel, pun intended. If you have a welder, you can do it yourself.

Rick Carlisle
December 26th, 2003, 06:36 PM
I won the bid on the Momo adapter off of eBay and I'm currently waiting on the seller to receive payment and then it will be shipped to me. The seller is in Seaside, CA.

As I said previously, I would be willing to ship it somewhere else for someone to machine a similar adapter, if there is a desire. I would like to get it back in a couple of weeks, at the latest, however. And whomever is interested would have to pay the shipping to and from. I don't know if Mark in New York is still interested or someone else.

Let me know soon if there is an interest. Otherwise, I will just put it on my truck.

And David I realize I paid more than your option. But I have a specific Momo wheel I want and an extra few bucks is nothing considering the time it would take me to do as you suggest. I am certain I am not as mechanically inclined as you nor do I have the tools to accomplish it. Besides, this is a very small piece of what is becoming a large investment in this truck.

Rick

mgrgpg
December 29th, 2003, 09:25 AM
I am still interested...I will be away for a few days, contact me after January 5th, and we can discuss it further.

Thanks,
Mark

PT94D90
December 29th, 2003, 11:23 AM
I'm in for an adapter if Mark can make it.

Rick Carlisle
December 29th, 2003, 11:53 AM
The adapter is being shipped to me in Florida. I will receive it, probably, early next week. Like I said, I would be willing to ship to Mark in NY, or elsewhere, for someone to make a similar adapter, as long as you guys get together and cover the shipping to/from. My steering wheel is ordered and I will have it, as well, early next week but I will wait a couple of weeks to put it on.

I will notify via this post once I get the adapter.

Rick

Doug
December 29th, 2003, 12:34 PM
I am in.

TDI Guy
December 29th, 2003, 03:18 PM
Guys, I will have my addapter in about a week and when I get it, I will bring it to the shop down the road from me. They do small production runs on things so I will have him give me a price for everyone also.

RAndy

PT94D90
December 29th, 2003, 06:05 PM
Sounds good Randy, I'll wait to hear from you. Appreciate it.

PT

Rick Carlisle
December 29th, 2003, 07:32 PM
Randy's option may be quicker. And I have no idea what cost Mark in NY was going to be able to machine the units for.
Since these things seem to be so scarce, I'm glad there are a couple of us that will have one available to be reproduced. I don't mind waiting to help others.

howellm70
December 30th, 2003, 02:22 AM
I'm interested in one as well if anyone's compiling a list. Keep us posted.

mgrgpg
January 6th, 2004, 08:30 AM
Guys,

I am back in the shop now, and if anyone has an adapter they can ship me, I can get it priced up and posted. Let me know.

Thanks,
Mark

dmarchand
January 6th, 2004, 04:37 PM
Has anyone fit the 300tdi version of the Defender steering wheel? I'd like to know if it's direct bolt on or not.

Rick Carlisle
January 6th, 2004, 06:19 PM
I received the adapter via UPS today. My Momo wheel as well.
I took the adapter to some hot rods friends of mine and they are going to price up what it would take to machine a similar adapter. I should know in a couple of days.
If that doesn't work, I am still up for shipping it to Mark in NY as long as someone else pays for the shipping to/from and I get it back within a reasonable time period.
I'm not sure what the status of Randy's option is. Maybe he could comment.

dnewman9
January 7th, 2004, 11:28 AM
What is the part number on the ebay adapter? I thought the correct adapter for a 92-up Defender was MO-5613 but it looks like a couple other part numbers were quoted in the custom mods section?
Can anyone tell me what works on a 97 if it is different from a 94/95?
Thanks
Dennis

Sorry make that the FAQ section above.

wicks
January 8th, 2004, 02:21 AM
Momo wheels on a Land Rover? What's wrong with standard?

This is kinda ghetto fellas.

Rick Carlisle
January 8th, 2004, 08:13 AM
I don't think so Wicks. Any more than changing your stock seat to an aftermarket one that is much more comfortable (and looks better as well). Check out CVC's write up on the Corbeau seat replacement in his 90. It looks awesome! What's wrong with matching that with a non-stock steering wheel?
For me, it is "creature comfort". I drive my 90 all day in traffic and the stock wheel is just cumbersome. It has always been at the top of my list to change.
Granted, there are some wheels which would look gaudy on the 90, but with careful selection (Momo has many different styles....not just the small racing wheels) I will do fine.
Apparently, there are many others who feel as I do, including your father.

PT94D90
January 8th, 2004, 09:35 AM
I'm with Rick, my mods are for safety and functionality. The stock headlights were flat dangerous they were so weak, so I put in better ones. Same for the side mirrors. I've already banged my elbow a couple of times on the window glass turning the wheel real fast.

roverboy
January 10th, 2004, 12:02 PM
are you f*cking kidding me? ghetto? It's not like anyone's putting 20" chrome spinners on it. I'm not even going to try and justify it, it's a personal preference and in my opinion it's far superior than stock. But what do I know? This is only my 3rd rover and I've only been driving them for the last 10 years. Why upgrade your springs? Why put new tires on it? Why not keep the factory bull bar? I'll tell you what Wicks, if you want to see for yourself how "ghetto" it is, I'll be glad to meet you on trail 12 in Tellico anytime and you can take a look.:evilfinge

Rick Carlisle
January 10th, 2004, 12:11 PM
Unfortunately, not so good news on machining a similar adapter. My local sources indicate the price would be pretty high for them to do it (more than the $80 I paid for the original). They also admitted they were not really set up to do it, particularly because they don't have a splining tool that would work for this application.
There seemed to be several of you who were interested in having one of these. I still need to hear who would cover the costs of shipping to/from Mark in NY if there is still interest. If I don't hear back, I am just going to put my wheel on, which I could have done before now.

Doug
January 10th, 2004, 09:09 PM
Hi Tom,

I think Wicks' comment was tongue in cheek! No need to start with the **'s! ;)

BTW, Wicks has been in and around Rovers since he was about 10 yrs old, starting in a farm truck 109 that pulled hay wagons, hauled fence posts, and rescued snow plows out of the drifts in Searsmont, ME. In his 20s, he partially restored a beautiful '72 88 ST that we would all die to have back in the family now. And his brother (modified 95 LWB) just called Wicks' current d90 a 'museum piece'. Definitely a concourse truck. So to him, Momo certainly could be called getto. It's all a matter of perspective -- and what you want to do with your vehicle. Myself -- I'd like to try a racing wheel to see if it improves handling and comfort -- the stock wheel is not bad though, and might be hard to beat.

Wicks' 'museum piece' by the way, just won the team competition NVTR2 in October along with my 110. So if we're throwing around challenges -- Wicks and I will be more than happy to meet you and another team truck in Lovelock on April 29. The gauntlet has been tossed!! Let's rumble! ;)

Doug W.

roverboy
January 11th, 2004, 12:08 AM
Wow, a real rover family! Your trucks all sound awesome. And if you guys are ever out here in my neck of the woods, I'd love to go wheelin with you. BTW, do you ever make it to the Mid Atlantic Rally?

As for the steering wheel, like I said in a previous post, I love it. And if you've ever been bothered by the size or shape of the stock unit, I highly recommend changing it out. Mine is tons more comfortale than stock, and much easier to steer offroading...especially slow navigating the rocky stuff. Now...I'll concede that if it were tiny and red leather...or maybe with neon or something....well, THAT may be another story. LOL But just because it says Momo on it, doesn't mean it's ghetto. :grin

TDI Guy
January 11th, 2004, 08:22 AM
I shoud have my adapter with in the next 2 weeks. Like I said in my past post, I will take it down to a a local shop that does short run fabrication. He will get me a price and I will let you guys know. I payed $90 for mine with shipping actually..

dnewman9
January 11th, 2004, 10:44 AM
Which is the correct adapter from Momo for a 97 NAS 90? I see several listed in the FAQ. Can one of you guys tell me the part number of the one you have bought?
Thanks
Dennis

Rick Carlisle
January 11th, 2004, 11:08 AM
Dennis,
I got your email and responded this morning. I will get the part number and send it to you when i get my adapter back from the guy who was trying to help me.
Rick

TDI Guy
January 11th, 2004, 11:24 AM
I don't have the adapter yet but when I get it, I will give it to you. They are actually all the same. All the trucks have the same steering column and same spline count.

Randy

mgrgpg
January 12th, 2004, 08:09 AM
Rick,

I will cover the shipping for the adapter.

Send me an email to my shop address, and I will give you my Fed Ex or UPS account info.

Mark@waterjetsunlimited.com

Regards,
Mark

Rick Carlisle
January 12th, 2004, 12:20 PM
Done

mgrgpg
January 20th, 2004, 08:32 AM
Rick,

Thanks for sending the adapter. Unfortunately I am not setup to manufacture this type of part. The Momo adapter is made to collapse on impact, and I can not manufacture it in this way. I am also concerend about a potential liability issue of manufacturing it out of solid material.

In addition, the $80.00 you spent on it is not bad compared to what you are getting and what someone would have to charge to make small runs of a part like this.

Thanks,
Mark

souza
January 23rd, 2004, 09:42 AM
I was under the impression that the stock LR column didn't collapse anyway (which was one of the reasons for not importing them anymore, in addition to airbags). If that's the case, who cares if the custom adapter doesn't collapse? Mark, just sell the adpaters 'for off road use only' like everyone else who is worried about liability does... ;)

I'd prefer it not to push the wheel so much closer to the driver anyway... Can anyone confirm the non-collapsible stock column/wheel?

TDI Guy
January 23rd, 2004, 09:53 AM
Dave, you are correct. the stock collumn does not collapse. It is a solid piece of steel. I am still waiting for my adapter so when I get mine, I will let you guys know about manufacturing them.

Randy