Best Jerry Can Holders?

[wicks]

What are the best Jerry Can Holders out there?

I want to be able to place 5 or 6 side by side very close together on their back side, in some kind of cradle/rack system.

Any tips?

[Mike Hippert]

WOW! isn't that like 250-300lbs? Are you planning on driving non stop coast to coast? Cannonball Run?

[rover4x4]

Dont you have a roof rack?

[wicks]

I run the Nevada Trophy and have to carry a lot of gas to make it without needing to run off course for a town to fuel up.

Yes I have a rack. It is currently an empty SD basket. I'm going to build it out to handle a lotta cool gizmos including a lot of gas.

[rover4x4]

Cool. Why not an AUX. tank for those long distances?

[loykd]

Not sure how you're going to mount, but here's one:
http://www.4x4trailers.com/New%20items/Jerry%20Cans.htm

[wicks]

Those are nice ones, clean, slim. But I want to mount them on the back of the can (so the spout is fillable when stowed)...

[chrisvonc]

Adam,

Why do what your dad did with his 110? Buy a D90 SD external cage and mount them over the rear windows as an idea.

Personally though, I like the idea of the 2nd internal gas tank.

[wicks]

Yes so do I, but the cans were $10 each and I don't need extra except once or twice a year...plus extra fuel tank is only 2-3 cans worth. Lotta dough too I think.

[chrisvonc]

Of course, if I could referance pictures from the event that would be good too but a certain family, not mentioning any names (walker), never sent any.
:)

[Doug]

Ouch, Chris!

Here's links to all our photos: The D-90 Source Community > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat > Nevada Trophy 2 Results

It was a real Defender victory! Adam's and my truck, as a team, placed First overall by a hugh margin.

I will also send you a pic of us all posed in front of the trucks.

PS: Next NVTR is March 29 -- come join us!

Doug

[rover4x4]

is it an all out race or what? how long is it?

[Doug]

There is a British outfit that makes a good twin can holder -- trying to remember who....

British Pacific has singles and that is where I bought mine. But in order for the cans to lie on their backs, I don't think these would work -- the locking strap opens over the can's top, and would have to lay out 14 inches or so flat to get the cans in and out....

DW

[Doug]

Starting a new thread about the NVTR....

[chrisvonc]

Originally posted by Doug
Ouch, Chris!

Doug
LOL... thanks Doug. I just got the email.

[chrisvonc]

Actually now back on the original topic, do you have any close ups of your jerry can mount on the 110?

[Doug]

http://www.kangol.net/lwb/NVTR/2003/CIMG1404.html

That's the best shot I have. The rack is basically three British Pacific holders bolted end to end, then bolted to a galvanized angle iron that runs the length underneath, which in turn slips into the roll cage lower corners and is secured by two of the roll cage's bolts.

A top bar of galvanized angle iron, secured with u-bolts to the back side of the vertical roll cage bars, holds the rack off the windows. The rack is not bolted to this bar, so the rack can be tilted forward for can removal and replacement.

Rack and cans are then secured using 'no hook' rachet tie down straps. I removed the top sheet metal straps from the holders so that I can fill and empty the cans without unloading them.

DW

[Mike Hippert]

HMMMM? I can go all day offroad and use less then 1/2 a tank of gas........







unless there's mud.:grin

[chrisvonc]

Yes but think about how far are you going when you wheel? The whole weekend at Paragon, we only creeping most of the days and covered 9 miles at the most all weekend not including the trips back and forth to the campground. I went all that weekend without filling up.

[Mike Hippert]

I was more curious about how far off the beaten path they were going, if it is allot of high range dirving over a long distance or if they are on the trail for a couple days?. I know when I go out I never cover more then 25 miles or so.

Why not get a fuel cell to throw in the back for the extended trips?

[Doug]

NVTR is a lot of full-throttle driving -- pushing sand on dry lakes, long straight graded desert dirt roads, and hill climbing over rough twisting switchbacks. Lot's of stops, throttle, slow, throttle, etc. Burns gas.

Fuel cell is a good idea. I was looking into plastic marine tanks at one time. Found a 13 gallon rectangle on line that was only about 8 inches high....

DW

[rover4x4]

whats the differense between a fuel cell and a gas tank?

[wicks]

We went through a solid tank and 4 cans on the last 12-hour event. Next one is a 48-hour format.

Nonstop workout for the motor so it rups through the gas.

[Mike Hippert]

Sounds cool!

[flippedrover]

Fuel cells are found normaly on race cars and I think most of the purpose built rockcrawlers. Basicaly its a highly impact resistant gas tank. Am I right on this??

[Joe P]

I have a FuelSafe fuel cell in my offroad race car. I don't know how "highly imact resistant" they are as the exterior doesn't appear too heavy duty and they are usually mounted inside of the car or truck away from any possible direct impact, but inside the metal "tank" is a foam bladder. The main purpose is to prevent the gas from spilling during a roll over. It works too. I rolled my car 8 times and not a leak.

[scot]

what's the difference ken...between gasoline cans (red) and diesel cans (yellow?)

[dmarchand]

I hear Roveraccessories sells a complete saddle fuel tank kit for the D90 with everything from tank and fittings, to pump, lines, fuel filler, gas cap, etc. Why not go that route? Think about how practical it would be to have two tanks, one Aux to pump into the main tank. Would double your current on-road and offroad range. And would be safer.

Scot, EE does a nice write-up on the cans: https://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/

[chrisvonc]

Originally posted by scot
what's the difference ken...between gasoline cans (red) and diesel cans (yellow?)
None other than marking and color to distinguish between Petrol and Diesel. Interesting, I just found out they are not for sale here in Pa.

[loykd]

CVC, if you want one, have it shipped to me in VA and I'll bring it with me on our next trip.

Dave, great link there. Never knew there was so much to know about gas and water cans!

Wicks, did you see the truck at the bottom of the page Dave linked? There's a set up for you... Two cans side-by-side mounted on the back.

[dmarchand]

Yeah. I dig the setup that this guy has for a rear tire mount and can holder. Not sure who built it, but the rest of his truck is ECR.

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/DSC07729.jpg

[chrisvonc]

Thats Frank Motleys rig. I downloaded a few rear shots of it and adjusted the color and it looks to be a Rockware decal on it.

[wicks]

Ouch heavy for that door unless it is mounting to the rear member somehow.

[chrisvonc]

yes, its a arm unit that bolts to the rear x-member.
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/DSC07712.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/DSC02611.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/DSC02612.jpg

[Rick Carlisle]

Chris, do you know who makes the ladders Frank has on his vehicle?

[chrisvonc]

Rick, those are the stock ladders that come with the NAS LR roof rack kit. They actually are the rear supports for the rack when installed.

[Rick Carlisle]

ok thanks

[Joe P]

I was thinking about adding a Jerry Can rack in mine too. I thought I would custom fab one that is similar to the picture in Ken's post. I was thinking about making it so it ran the entire width of the bed and would use the existing bolts for the bench seat and seat belts in the back of my D-90. I hate drilling into the truck if I can help it.

[mikeslandrover]

Wicks,
to get back to your origional question, 5 cans will fit side by side between the rear wheel boxes, they're a real snug fit, I'd consider getting a simple rack made up and using a ratchet strap to hold them in firmly and prevent rattling.
I wouldn't be happy with that much weight on a roof rack, it would be over 90 kgs.
I ran my 110 in the Sahara with 5 cans straped down in the back against the rear bulk head without a rack. I had the spouts at the top and a ratchet strap across the top of the cans and through the handles fixed to the body capings but then I wasn't racing. This set-up kept the weight low and between the axles. I've now gone to an aux tank though because I needed the space in the back for camping gear. (see custon mods fitting a 90 side tank) This mod only gives an extra 55 ltrs though. Good for 800 miles with an 80 ltr main tank, Yes it's a diesel.:cool:

[wicks]

Thanks Mike, yes I just tried that setup yesterday. ;) Didn't think the right numbers when I was planning to put that much up top. The rack is definitely for the lighter cargo, which is very scarce in a rally.

IF you aren't already, TiVo the Dakar coverage. Awesome stuff.