hinges

[dmarchand]

Back from the door hinge thread. I received an email from Tony of motosource last night. Detailing some of the products he's working on. Namely, stailess/anodized door hinges. Here' s a pick he sent, and the release date appears to be around Christmas of this year:

[dmarchand]

He plans to anozdize them black.

[rover4x4]

looks good, any pricing information?

[dmarchand]

None that I know of. I'll ask him though.

[rover4x4]

thanks, boy how about this new board?

[Mike Hippert]

The New board Kicks A$$ . It is so easy to change things and add :grin to everything!

Chris GREAT JOB !!!!

[TwisteD90]

I thought about painting mine black since I smashed a couple of them on rocks, but it look like those hinges will work for me better.
Let us know when they hit the market.

P.S. Isn't Tony the guy that makes the SS hardware kit that AB sells?

[dmarchand]

Yes, he is. He also makes a diamond plate door sill that AB sells, and some other stuff.

[DJ Menasco]

Dave

Will he offer them "as is" so that we could paint them if we wanted to?

DJ

[howellm70]

I like em just as they appear in the picture....

[JimC]

That looks like a thin pin going through the middle - they wont rust but do you suppose they'll last any better than stock?

Now if he makes rear door hinges that can withstand the battering from the spare tire carrier, then I definitely want a set.

[TwisteD90]

Does he have a website?

[rover4x4]

I dont think the hinges are the weak point in the SW rear door. The fact that the door is more than once piece is what causes the problems. The rear door is good for what it does not haulin around a mud grip tire. IMHO the only solution to the rear tire is a spare tire carrier such as the mantec or to put it on the hood.

[rover4x4]

i think his website is something to the effect of motorsource.com or motosource.com there may be a link in the specials section or vendors??

[pcarey]

I'd be interested in an unpainted version, or white, as well.

pwc

[jorge]

The door hinges look great, I,ll talk to Tony so he can post a better description and specifics on strength issues.

[chrisvonc]

Tony just sent me an email over the weekend with a whole bunch of pictures. I didnt get a chance to read closely or look at the pictures but it was about something new he had and it may be these. I will look tonight at the email and post them.

[chrisvonc]

Here are some more pictures of the aluminum billet door hinges. These pictures from Tony are the prototypes, the finished product will be anodized black, and they'll have stainless pivot pins and bushings and be packaged with stainless fasteners.

[chrisvonc]

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[tonymotosource]

hey guys, thanks for the positive feedback towards our hinges. the photos are the prototypes, we should have complete kits available in december. the hinges are machined from aluminum billet, the pivot pins are stainless steel, there are stainless steel bushings in the pivot plate as well as oil holes in the back. the hinges will be annodized in black. i have a white d90 and painted stock hinges black, they look great. plus black goes well with any color defender. i hope to hit a retail pricepoint of $250.00-$300.00 for a complete kit including all stainless steel fasteners for mounting. if you have a d110, you'll need two d90 kits plus a "110 retro kit" with the appropriate mounting hardware plus plugs for the mirror mounting holes. keep an eye on my site it's on the links for updates. also i'd love to talk to any of you regarding our products. my number is 914-271-6661. i'm in new york. thanks, tony. out.:grin

[Glenn_Guinto]

:toast

Hey do you still have those tires that you were selling from the old board? If you do, please email me (email address is below). Hope all is well!!!

Glenn

[howellm70]

Any one know the status of these door hinges? I can't wait to get a couple of pairs - the rust weeping is just killing me in the winter.

[tonymotosource]

HEY GUYS, THANKS FOR ALL OF THE GREAT RESPONSE REGARDING THE HINGES. MY FIRST ORDER IS BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW. THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE LATEST MID FEBRUARY. I'LL HAVE KITS FOR D90 AND D110. THE HINGES WILL BE HARDCOATED SATIN BLACK. THIS FINISH IS PREFERRED BECAUSE WE FEEL IT GOES BEST WITH ANY COLOR DEFENDER, AND IF DESIRED THEY CAN BE PAINTED EASIER THAN IF THEY WERE ANNODIZED. I'LL BE SURE TO POST AS SOON AS I HAVE KITS. I CAN BE REACHED AT 914-271-6661 OR 914-441-6690 FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANKS AGAIN, TONY.

[howellm70]

Tony - thanks for the quick reply, that's great news. Have you set the final price yet?

[tonymotosource]

The hinge kit complete for D90 will retail for $299.99, the kit for D110 will retail for $599.99. I'm expecting enough product to assemble 50 kits on my "start up" order, so immediate availability will be good. Any interested parties should let me know so i can put the names on my list. Thanks, Tony.

[dmarchand]

Tony, do you have any profile pics (farther away) of the hinges mounted on the Defender? I just wanted to see the hinge mounted on the door, and see how it all comes together.

Thanks!

[tonymotosource]

Sorry David, not at present. But as soon as i get them i'll have some nice shots up on the site. Thanks, Tony.

[howellm70]

Tony - any update on the status of the door hinges? I'm ready to beta test when you're ready!

[Tawayama]

I just had all of my hinges sandblasted and repainted. Cost? $20.

[mattdh]

michael-what are you going to do with all the extra money you just saved? the web site under the link-- www.mudstuff.co.uk has some really nice stainless steel hinge but for the $500 or $600 US dollars thats a little to much for my blood.

[Tawayama]

I don't know. For now I think I'll just roll around in it on the floor.

:)

[dmarchand]

Reviving this old thread. Has anyone had luck with getting replacement hinges, whether via Tony's new hinge, or the Rovers North hinge kit?

If so, how did they work out for you?

[mhansen]

Surfing around tonight I checked his web site and found the hinges. He is referring people to Rovers North and Atlantic British for sales

http://www.motosource.com

I calculated that I can repaint my hinges 1729 times for the price of his new ones.

[wicks]

They don't look right to me. They should be shaped correctly, not like a DeLorean part.

Only for trail rigs that are beat up and people who don't care about any detail.

Would recommend the new design genuine hinges. George @ RDS is advertising a set of them.

Actually I can't even believe that anyone is carrying these motosrouce parts. The guy makes stuff out of Jeepish diamond plating for Rovers. What did he miss? :nerd

[JimC]

They also seem a wee bit expensive...

[dmarchand]

Wicks, what's "new" about the new design in the hinges George sells?

[wicks]

There's a page on ECR that goes into detail about it. They've been testing a set for a while.

It's got some bushings and stuff in it to prevent corrosion and better pot metal or something.

[Eric Siepmann]

They're also completely zinc coated which the stock ones are not. All in all they are nice. RN has a picture of them on they're site. You get everything to install - all bolts, gaskets, captive nuts, ect.
You get more than the hinges alone.

EwS

[wicks]

Now that's proper.

http://catalog.roversnorth.com/catalog/large.taf?id=RNK8060

[Buckon37s]

$249 :eek: :bling Are they made out of 300m? For that price I would weld the door shut before I bought those.

[Mike Hippert]

Weld the door shut....................









or just take them off!!!!!

How can they cost so much?

[wicks]

I think this is a "price to what the market will bare" example.

[Mike Hippert]

AHHH, I will just clean and repaint mine every couple years.

[TwisteD90]

That's what I did! Took them off, sanded, primed, and painted them flat black and they look awesome :)

However, as always I appreciate what Tony did and what he produced. It is nice to see someone uses their skills to bring something new and different to the market, and I don't see why there is always someone that likes to talk smack about what people do :rolleyes

[Tawayama]

Tony's hinges are super sweet, for sure. I'm not sure I like the 'square-ness' of them, nor do I like the price.

I've had a lot of custom stuff machined, CNC'ed etc...and I KNOW I could get some hinges made that looked stock and still make a profit for way less than what his are or what RN is making.

The line I liked the best was: "Land Rover has designed a new, non-corrosive alloy for both hinges and bolts to prevent rust for good." What a bunch of crap.

Now we're supposed to believe that LR is in the metallurgy business and have some revolutionary non-corrosive material? Have they also added something to the periodic table of elements too?

They're just cad-plated regular hinges with cad-plated bolts. Something new for LR for sure, they've never cad-plated anything before (except maybe brake calipers).

[TwisteD90]

I do agree with you on the price, but look around you everything that involves a LR is expensive.

[dmarchand]

and I KNOW I could get some hinges made that looked stock and still make a profit for way less than what his are or what RN is making


Slade, just do it!;)

[Tawayama]

It's too easy to go to the sandblaster and paint them.

[norros]

I was in a bind and too lazy to look for the stainless bolts to install in the hinges so I called Tony @ Motosource and he sold me the bolts out of his 'SS kit' for $50. It was easy and for a grand total of $65, I had them in 2 days.

I asked him about the hinges and he said he was having problems with the company he had making them so it's looking like another '60 days'.

FYI


Nicholas Orros

[Eric Siepmann]

I think MS has the right idea. If the hinges are in good order, just have them re-shot. If the body shop doing the work is good, they should last stain free for awhile. Just oild the pins.

EwS

[OCD90]

Relatedly...rather than buy a set of stainless bolts for $300 or some insane cost (for doors, hood and rear)...Does anyone know the sizes and thread of the different bolts? How many of each size?

I'm going to buy stainless from a Marine shop, but I'd rather not take off the bolts first to figure it all out...especially if they don't saock the exact ones...

Thanks!

[DJ Menasco]

Search!

http://www.d-90.com/tech/part_sub.html

[RichardMoore]

Originally posted by rover4x4
I dont think the hinges are the weak point in the SW rear door. The fact that the door is more than once piece is what causes the problems. The rear door is good for what it does not haulin around a mud grip tire. IMHO the only solution to the rear tire is a spare tire carrier such as the mantec or to put it on the hood.

2002> Defenders have one piece zinc coated steel rear door with Disco type wheel carrier - it will fit older SW's without mods -the hinges are the same but the cost is circa £500 - I had a pic but have lost the file though Chris von C may still have a copy.

[OCD90]

D.J. I had not idea that was there--AMAZING.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[norros]

I hate to hit this topic again, but I'm in a 'search & buy' mode this week and I visited motosource.com to check the hinges to see if they were in stock or what not, and the PRICES !

http://www.motosource.com/prod_hindge.html

D90 $499.99
D110 $749.99


FIVE BILLS FOR THE D90 ???!!! Is he serious ???

I don't care how nice they are, that's insane...
I think they used to be $250-$300 or something like that for the D90.

SHEESH.

N

[DJ Menasco]

I hate to hit this topic again, but I'm in a 'search & buy' mode this week

I KNEW IT! Whenever I see "Norros" in a thread I know you've got some cash just burning a hole in your pocket! And a good thing too because you're one of the more resourceful guys on this board, e.g. you’re posting on Roof-Top Tents. That post was packed with good information.

I visited motosource.com to check the hinges to see if they were in stock or what not, and the PRICES!

Personally I'd have to agree about the prices. It seems as if Motosource typically runs their pricing high to borderline "gouging."

Larry O’Hara posted a fantastic piece on the installation of the new OEM door hinges. Have a look here (http://www.d-90.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3687) for both passenger and drivers side doors and here (http://www.d-90.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3768) for the rear door on Station Wagons.

DJ

[howellm70]

Agreed...very nice product but I just can't justify spending that much $ to fix a relatively minor cosmetic problem. Hopefully they'll come down in price over time.

[norros]

DJ,
Thanks man.
yeah, this week has shone the d90 in just that light needed to get the wheels rollin' on upgrades.

question is... what's not a piece of shit.

I really can't justify spending that kind of money, though i really want them because the white on mine don't look so good.

i think these are quality, but again five bills...


N

[JBurt]

Hey, I've asked this before, but does anybody know how to get OEM hinges apart?
Thanks

[DJ Menasco]

DJ,
Thanks man.
yeah, this week has shone the d90 in just that light needed to get the wheels rollin' on upgrades.

question is... what's not a piece of shit.

I really can't justify spending that kind of money, though i really want them because the white on mine don't look so good.

i think these are quality, but again five bills...


N


Yeah, no problem. I always enjoy your "reviews." :grin

Personally, I'd follow in Larry's footsteps and go for the RN package because not only is it OEM at half the price, but you retain the OEM image! Which, in my opinion, is important to maintaining a D90, e.g. John Lee's SW (http://www.expeditionexchange.com/johnlee/). All of his modifications retain the D90 spec (if you will) yet is completely functional without it being "Bastardized." While the MotoSource hinges are attractive due to their metallurgy I think they’re hideously ugly in addition to being extremely overpriced.

I'm all for functionality, but it's got to be clean. As a consumer I’d pay top dollar for this combination. I think the RN hinge-kit personifies this to a "T" in this case. Look at what Larry was able to accomplish! His white SW looks superb with the RN hinges (and the MotoSource SS-hardware). I think you would really benefit from this set-up as well.


DJ

[JimC]

mud.co.uk has stainless hinges that are actually the same shape as OEM hinges. They cost every bit as much as the Motosource hinges but they arent blocky and stupid looking.

[JohnC]

I think you mean http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/Stainless_Steel_Defender_Hinges.html, right?

[JimC]

Uh, yeah, thats what I meant!