“Kick panels” Cardboard replacement

[SlickRockFab]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let everyone know that I have acquired templates (94 95 97) for the stock cardboard foot well panels and have started on the prototype replacement parts, as things develop I will continue to post in this section so everyone will be able to follow the progress and provide input as to how the final products looks.

Additionally I have posted a poll at the top of this thread so that I can get a better idea of how many people are interested in the kick panels and what year of 90 they drive.

Preliminary details of the replacements

.090 5052 Aluminum
Black texture power coat
1997 Drivers side only
1994/1995 Driver and passenger side (Passenger side pending feedback from everyone if they have A/C or not)

I finished the drawings of all three parts tonight and will be sending them out to the cutters on Monday for a quote.

Thanks,

Dave Lucas
SlickRock Fabrication

[rover4x4]

nevermind.

[TwisteD90]

Any idea on the price.

[Joe P]

Any chance of making them out of checker plate? Also why no passenger side for the 97 w/ A/C.

Joe

[SlickRockFab]

Hi,

"Any idea on the price."
I still need to check with the powder coater and find out some other information before I can post an estimated price, but you know that I am always VERY fair on my prices :)

"Any chance of making them out of checker plate?"
Well, anything is possible, but the checker plate is really really really expensive, the labor would increase and the parts would need to be anodized so I would say that it easily probably triple or quadruple the price compared to the current plan.

“Also why no passenger side for the 97 w/ A/C”
hmmm, my 97 with A/C does not have a cardboard piece on the passenger side and it does not look like I am missing anything so I assumed the D90’s with A/C did not have the cardboard on the passenger side, please check yours and let me know, also take some pics if you do not mind.

Great questions guys,

Dave

[dmarchand]

Dave, your right about the '97 with AC and no panel on the passenger side. It think it's silly they don't have one as often my passengers kick the ground wire off the AC.

Looking forward to your new product...:grin

[OCD90]

Price depending, I'd be interested...have a 97 w/A/C.

[read]

price would be the main factor but it sounds interesting... '94 w/ a/c.

[vnrover]

I'm interested too. Pls let me know price.

97 softtop with AC

Thanks,
Paul

[bd90]

I am drawing a blank. Are the panels the ones you must remove to remove door hinge bolts? To the right of the passenger's feet and the left of the driver's feet? If not, what are you guys talking about?

[chrisvonc]

http://www.d-90.com/discus/messages/16/1447.html

[dboehme]

Sorry about the last post, it's really mine. I was still logged in as Admin from when I was helping Chris Von Land Rover with the initial BBS database stuff.

I'd be interested (95 w/out AC)...might need to put some sort of rubber feet or insulation as the panels might rattle when installed.

[chrisvonc]

damn dude.. that was like 6 months ago...

Hmmm.... I think I can pin the DB corruption on Doug. Yeah.... thats it... Damn hacker.

[wicks]

Doug is also interested but he's got a '93 110 (A/C in dash).

I have 97 with A/C. Thin chequerplate with pattern facing down and noise/heat insulation on the inside would definitely be the choice material.

[flippedrover]

I'll jump on board too. '94 with A/C

[souza]

I'm in too... 95 with

[howellm70]

I'm in for sure - 95 w/o AC

[SlickRockFab]

Hello All,

I just wanted to give everyone an update on the Kick panels.


Currently the plan is to build the panels from laser cut .090 Aluminum and have them powder coated with a black textured powder coat, I should have some non-powder coated prototypes that I can test fit soon and post some pictures so that everyone can get an idea of how they will fit and what the will look like – powder coating.

Click on the following link if you would like to see a sample of the coating that I was planning on using (BK04 or BK62).
http://www.cardinalpaint.com/html/powdercoatings.html

I personally like the BK04 since it looks like black leather


Estimated price (for the initial run of panels)

Drivers Side Panel (94,95 and 97 D90) $40.00

Passenger side for the non A/C people $35.00

Thanks,

Dave Lucas
SlickRock Fabrication


Wicks,
I am not sure if I will be making them for the 110 at this time since there are so few 110’s in the US it would be very expensive for such a small run, but I need to find a 110 so I can compare the panels and see how they compare to the 90 panels and if they are close I will not rule the 110 out as an option.
Anyone out there have a good picture of the stock 110 panels or maybe some measurements?

[DJ Menasco]

I'm in too for a 95 w/ A/C. I like the BK62 myself!

DJ

[Eric Siepmann]

I am in. 97 no AC.

Eric

[sherpamike]

I am in too. '95 with A/C
-Mike

[TwisteD90]

I'm in for both, but I have a question. My D90 came with AC but I took it out so how am I suppose to attach the passenger side?

Thanks,

[mpodgorski]

i am in 95 w AC

[mauid90]

I'm interested also, need the panels for the following 2 D-90s
95 with A/C
97 with A/C
Thanks
Al Janneck

[paulb]

Just tore my cardboard so am interested, but price sensitive.
1994 D-90 softtop with A/C

[jorge]

Count me in for 2 ,97s A/C .

[OCD90]

The estimated prices sound fine (although cheaper would be great, too!). Let us know when you get ready to do it.

[Glenn_Guinto]

Put me in for a 94 with A/C please. Thank you.

[rover4x4]

I would be interested in the driver side w/ac/95 but would like to see the finished product before I make a commitment to purchase. thanks.

[TwisteD90]

Dave, any word when they gonna be ready?

[SlickRockFab]

Hi Everyone,

I should have the prototypes for each year of 90 done this week, I will take some pictures of the panels and post them so you can see the progress.

Since I only have access to a 1997 With A/C I will be looking for someone (preferably in Colorado) with a 1994 - 1995 with and without AC so I can test fit the panels, for your time/effort I will give you a set at a discounted rate when they are finished.

“I would be interested in the driver side w/ac/95 but would like to see the finished product before I make a commitment to purchase“
Hi Phillip,
I do not expect anyone to commit to purchasing the item at this time, the poll is just to collect information on what everyone was driving, this way I can better plan what percentage of each Item would need to be made A/C, non A/C, 94, 95 or 97.

Once the panels are tested and complete I will post them on my site and everyone can purchase them from the online store.


Thanks,

Dave

[wicks]

Dave, on the 110 issue I can just test the panel you ship me in the 110 before I fit in in my 90, then share notes.

Price is right - and good on the finish. Will it bend and seat into place like the cardboard or are you planning on having us screw it in? If so we should use black trim screws that match the other dash screws...

Wicks

[dmarchand]

Has anyone considered making a plate to fit in the rear wheel well to protect the rear light harnesses and cross member from slop coming off the tire? This might be another no-brainer fabrication but one that would go a long way. Anyone else think it might be useful?

[souza]

I do Dave... I was just noticing the water pooling up in my rear lights today... I'll have to drill some seep holes.

[rover4x4]

I think Rover offered a kit from the stealership that had some sort of rubber gasket that protected the rear signals and such. I have seen this on a 97 before so I know its avalible. perhaps someone could elaborate. the seep holes are a good idea also

[howellm70]

There is a rubber gasket kit that protects the rear light housings - I forget where I saw it (Rovers North or British Atlantic)...in any event is was super expensive, close to $300 as I recall.

[rover4x4]

holy shit i will drill weep holes. I didnt realize it cost that much

[Eric Siepmann]

Rovers North sells them for 145. It is a boot kit that prevents water ingress.

EwS

[wicks]

Mine's got the boot kit. But it also needed the weep holes. Still crappy back in there and lights are dirty inside. Kind of thing that should be replaced every 5 years or so anyway just so they look nice and chipper. ;)

David, yes I would think that would be a good tweak. It's one of those bizarre oversights.

[dboehme]

The rubber boot keeps water out but also keeps water in...I drilled holes 3 years ago and never had a problem. Also, I use dielectric grease in the sockets. Prior to that, I lost count of the number of times they were replaced.

[dmarchand]

The water egress is not so much a problem. I have the RN boot kit and it works to a certain extent. Water is going to get into the lights, no matter what you do. The boot works, but when you submerge the lights, it still goes in.

The problem I'm referring to is the crap thrown both on the lights, wiring harnesses etc, as well as all over the cross member, safety cage mounts and so on.

So, with road salt and sand and other funkiness, that area of the wheel well takes a beating. I was thinking of a plastic panel to cover it up in some fashion.

[SlickRockFab]

Hi Everyone,

I have posted a few pics of the first set of prototypes, I am going to test fit the 1997 panel later today and will post some pics of it installed later today.
http://www.slickrockfabrication.com/d90kick.htm

Please keep in mind that the final version will be blasted and painted with powder coating giving them a much better looking finish than the bare aluminum.

Additionally, please ignore the small round holes that are in the panels :)

I still need someone with a 1994 and 1995 with A/C and W/O AC to test the panels.

Thanks,

Dave Lucas

[rover4x4]

those look really nice. cant wait to see the final finished products

[SlickRockFab]

Hi,

Two pictures of the panel installed on my 1997 have now been added to the page, it looks like I got the bends correct and only need to make a few minor dimensional changes and the 1997 driver side panel will be ready to go.

Still looking for someone with a 94 & 95 here in Colorado :)

[TwisteD90]

NICE :)

I would love to bring my D90 for you to test the panels but the poor thing is sitting on jack stands awaiting the coil overs...

[Quimbola]

Dave,

I can volunteer my 94. Then you can get your spare.

[OCD90]

Yes. They look great. Still count me and my '97 w/AC in!

[januconn92]

I would like a drivers side for my 97' with A/C

When available, email me with the final price and how to pay...

Thanks,

Jan

[SlickRockFab]

Hi everyone,

Well, I finally managed to test fit all of the panels on each year :)

The only surprise I ran into was the ECU location on the 1994 without A/C so the passenger side panel will need to be redesigned to accommodate the ECU that is installed on the bulk head :(

I am going to start production on the following panels in a few weeks and should have them ready to sell before too long.

1997 Driver side

1995 Drivers and passenger side

1994 Driver side (passenger side needs more work to accommodate ECU)

The passenger side panels are only used if your Defender does not have A/C


******* I still need someone with a 1997 non A/C equipped Defender to test fit the passenger side panel********

Thanks for all of the great questions and support

Dave Lucas

[Doug]

Dave, I think that the '94 without ac' will fit my 110. When you are ready to ship both sides of that style, please count me in.

Best,

Doug Walker

[Maine 110]

dave i have the panels from my 110 if you would like them to compare to your 94 d-90 w/o a/c. i'll send them to you if you would like them, i am also interested in a set for my 110.

Jesse

[SlickRockFab]

Doug, Jesse

I am pretty sure that the 1994 – 1995 drivers side panel will fit your 110, but I am not sure about the passenger side, would it be possible for you to take a picture of the drivers side and passenger side and email them to me?

Additionally do you happen to know if the ECU is located in the passenger foot well on your 110’s, this is the only reason the passenger side will not fit the 1994.

When the drivers side kick panels are done I will set one aside if either of you are interested in test fitting one.

Thanks,

Dave

[TDI Guy]

Dave. I want a set too. My truck is a custom built truck but it has a 110 bulkhead. It does not have an ecu so I think a set of standard ones would be fine. What do you think?

Randy

[Doug]

NAS 110's have the ecu behind the kick panel. I'll try to take some pics this week.

Doug

[TDI Guy]

My truck has no ecu though... It has nothing in the passenger foot well.

[SlickRockFab]

Randy,

I think they will fit, you arte welcome to try a set and if they do not fit you can return them for a refund :)

[TDI Guy]

Sounds good to me. I'm in for a set.


Randy

[ELCIDd90]

Dave,

count me in for a '94 non-AC set. Let me know when you get the ecu issue figured out.

Joe

[SlickRockFab]

Ohhhhhh Ahhhhhhh

Picked up a pile of panels today :eek:

They will be going to the powder coater early next week :)

[TwisteD90]

Sweeet, can't wait to pick mine up :)

[tbutzow]

Is it too late to get in on this? Sent you a direct email inquiry, please let me know. I have a '97 SW.

Tim

[Peter]

I would like a pair for my 95 with a/c. Where do I send the $?

[CHRIS C]

I'm interested let us know 97 ST w/ac thanks Chris

[nickt]

Count me in for my '97 with A/C.

Cheers,
Nick.

[SlickRockFab]

Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that I will be picking up the panels from the powder coater Tuesday. As soon they are ready to ship I will put them up on my site where you can purchase online and post an update in this forum.

www.slickrockfabrication.com

At this time I am still waiting for my credit card setup so I can only accept Pay Pal, cash or check/money order.

Thanks for your support and feedback!

Dave Lucas

[rover4x4]

Will these be readily availible or do you only anticpate one limited production run??

[SlickRockFab]

Hi Phillip,

As long as there is a demand for the kick panels I will keep making them.

Although I may have to adjust the price a little on the future batches since the panels ended up costing more than I had anticipated :(

thanks,

Dave

[SlickRockFab]

Added pictures of the kick panels at the following URL

http://www.slickrockfabrication.com/d90kick.htm

I will try to get them added to the store later this week

thanks,

[SlickRockFab]

Hi Everyone,

The panels have been posted and the site is ready to accept orders!
www.slickrockfabrication.com

Price (Must use coupon code to get the price listed below) Coupon code: D-90
97 Drivers side (Automatic Transmission) $40.00
94 – 95 (Manual Transmission) $40.00
95 – 97 Passenger side for Non A/C $35.00

UPS ground shipping should range between $10 – 14

The panels will use the existing brackets, screws and foam. If you have lost or damaged the foam you can purchase new foam at Home Depot or any other large home improvement store for around $3.

Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback about the panels.

Thanks,

Dave Lucas

[Burke]

Dave, love the kick plates and very interested in ordering. Any word on passenger side for '94 without A/C? Thanks

[SlickRockFab]

Hi,

Thanks for the compliments on the panels :)

I have not had any time to start on the 94 passenger side yet :(

Currently no ETA

Sorry

[COSteve]

Dave,
I am assumeing (always a mistake with Landrover products.. or anytime else for that matter) that the 94 Manual would fit my 93 Manual 110. The passenger side would be a differenct matter. Have you have anyone confirm? I have one that I could send it you are interested. If the 90 Passenger without AC is close, and you can confirm, I may be able to modify myself. Pic of mine posted. COSteve

[SlickRockFab]

Hi Steve,

I am located in Colorado as well, maybe I can bring down a pair and see if they fit your 110 :grin

Are you going to be at the meet and greet that is coming up in a few weeks? :toast

[OCD90]

Hi, all. I just received the kick panel for my '97 with A/C. It is great! I'm thoroughly impressed. Workmanship is excellent, precise, edges smoothed out. I mean it's not a complex thing, but it was done right. Pebbled painted finish. Nice work.

[TDI Guy]

Thanks Dave. I got it today. It's a great Idem.

Randy

[flippedrover]

Finaly fitted the kick plate. It looks great.

[souza]

I put mine on over the weekend. It fits and looks great, thanks for another great product Dave!

[ELCIDd90]

Dave,

If I relocated my ECU(probably a good idea anyways), would the '95 non-AC panels work for a '94 non-AC?

Joe

[Abrooks]

Dave, tried emailing you but I don't know if it worked -- I, too, would be interested in the compatablility between the 94 and 95/97 passenger side non-AC kick panel.

Many thanks,

Tony

[dave_lucas]

Joe,

I am fairly confident that the 95 and up passenger panel would work if you were to relocate the ECU. Additionally I accept returns on the kick panels for 30 days from the time you receive them so you can try it and if it does not fit I will refund your money (-shipping). If I would have know you were interested I could have dropped one off for you when I was in Brentwood a few weeks ago picking up my new ride :)



Anthony,

I sent the following message 4/20/2004 but I have had several issues with the Comcast email servers :(

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Unfortunately they will not fit the 1994 due to the ECU being mounted in that location. If for some reason you do not have the ECU located there it would fit (TDI conversion or relocated it higher up)

Thanks for the inquiry,

Dave Lucas

www.slickrockfabrication.com
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[ELCIDd90]

Dave,

I've actually been in Charleston(with the 90). I'm winding down the year here and will get back to you about ordering the kick panels when I get some time to start playing around with mods.

Joe

- did you pick up your new ride at LR Nashville or privately?

[dave_lucas]

Hi Joe,

LR Nashville

It was a certified white 99 series 1 Discovery SD with 40K on the clock.

[ELCIDd90]

Hope they didn't break your bank! :)

Z

[jbird]

Are these still available?

[bugula]

Originally posted by jbird
Are these still available?

yeah, i missed the boat on this too and my driver's side kickplate's starting to fall apart.

[dave_lucas]

Keith,

What year of D90 do you have? I still have kick panels in stock for the 1997 driver side and 1995 and up non A/C passenger sides.

If you are looking for a 1994 - 1995 drivers side I am currently out of them, but I will make more once I sell a few more of the 1997 driver side kick panels.

thanks,

[bugula]

i've got a 94 w/o AC, so i'll keep watching this thread for your update! thanks!

[OCD90]

I (finally) installed my drivers side panel on the '97. It took maybe 10 minutes....pretty simple. No issues.

[chrisvonc]

I went to install mine but ran into a possible mounting issue (granted, I only dealt with it for 5 minutes as I was in the middle of cleaning a shed). My 94 has these rather large bolt heads as well as the clutch spring in that upper channel that when the plate is installed, force the top of the plate downward, pulling the channel out. I will look more at it this week but has anyone else seen these huge bolt heads there? Other than that, I agree that is only a 10 minute job. :)

[dave_lucas]

Hi Chris,

Can you get a picture of the large bolt heads? I did not see anything like you describe when I test fit the panels on the 94, 95 and 97 D90's that I had access to.

I am sure we can find a way to get it installed :)

[chrisvonc]

Sure thing... I will take some pictures tonight when I get home.

[Doug]

Dave,

What's the link to your product site again?

[dave_lucas]

:pimp

www.slickrockfabrication.com

[chrisvonc]

Here you go, a little grainy but you should be able to see the 2 bolt heads.

[dave_lucas]

Hi Chris,

Kind of hard to tell from the pictures that you posted, but the bolts and spring look the same as the ones on the 94 & 95 that I tested the panels on.

Here are some pictures of the 94 that I tested, if you look close you will see the spring and the bolt heads in there.

Hopefully the pictures will help :)

Feel free to IM or PM me

[chrisvonc]

You know what... your spring goes to the left, mine goes to the right up under the channel which is causing the problem. I am wondering if it was switched at one point while some work was being done or something. I'll see if I can switch it and try refitting.

thanks

[TDI Guy]

Chris, you can put it on either side. It won't cause a problem.

Randy

[dave_lucas]

Kind of odd,

One that I tested it was on the right and one was on the left. The panel fit both of them regardless of the side that the spring was installed on.

Are you missing the foam that goes in between the dash and the kick panel? Without the foam in place it might not keep the panel spaced out the proper distance from the dash.

Just a thought :confused

[norros]

Just checking on any updates regarding a 94/95 Driver's side panel.

Whenever these are ready I want/need one.

If you need a 'group buy' I'm sure others will chime in.

Cheers,

Nicholas

[dave_lucas]

Hi Nick,

Guess I underestimated the demand :eek:

But I will have more done soon :pimp

[Hollywood]

Hi Dave,
Put me down for a set of kickpanels for a 94 w/o ac. I would like to get one of your fuel tank plates as well.

Alex

[doozle]

Dave, put me down for a set of panels 94 W/ AC. Let me know when and how much I can do paypal. Thanks.

[Doug]

I'll take a set too, for my 93 110. I'll gamble that I can make them fit. So a kit for a '94 d90, without air.

DW

[norros]

Dave,

I was on the SlickRockFabrication.com site and I noticed that the 95' with A/C was ready to 'buy'... Is this true ?

If so, how much for shipping to Tallahassee, Florida 32308 ??

Thanks

Nicholas Orros

[dave_lucas]

Yep,

They are in stock and ready to go! :pimp

I apologize for not having them in stock sooner for everyone, I am working on ramping up my inventory so hopefully I will be able to keep up with demand.

Just shipped one to Tampa and it was $12

thanks,

Dave

[norros]

Done.

Just ordered.

Nicholas

[Burke]

Dave, put me down for a set for '94 w/o AC. Thanks

[dave_lucas]

Hi Burke,

Currently I only offer the drivers side for the 94, eventually I hope to offer a passenger side option for the 94 but I do not have an ETA at this time.

In the mean time I have the driver side in stock on my site.

www.slickrockfabrication.com

[norros]

Dave you HO!

Giving all your stuff to Ho!

LOL...

Just saw your products on EE's website... YOU SELL OUT!!!

prices....eeeek!

nah... they're great guys... actually just got my new Luminox watch from them (the TAG's taken a beating).

Had to bust on ya'.


Nicholas Orros

[bugula]

thanks for posting with the info...woulda missed out on this. i've been wanting the panel for a while now but didn't realize he only fabbed the driver's side up.

Dave, any word on if a passenger side panel is in the works?