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ONDROX
January 28th, 2004, 11:02 PM
recently purchased a 97 that has a snorkel on it--I am not really into offroading, but do I have to worry about my tranny if I drive through high water? I have the original engine w/ auto trans.

DJ Menasco
January 28th, 2004, 11:52 PM
Well, your transmission has a breather tube coming out of it that should terminate next to you master cylinder along with your front axle and t-case breather tubes. You shouldn't have to worry about the transmission. Besides, the snorkel is primarily designed to protect your air-intake, although, you can run your breather tubes up and into the snorkel.

DJ

mikeslandrover
January 29th, 2004, 07:47 AM
If you don't offroad probably best to take the snorkel off, you'll probably get slightly better mpg as they restrict the engine breathing.
:eek:

Tawayama
January 29th, 2004, 02:00 PM
...possibly.

But, you'll get cleaner air (marginally I know), by breathing it up off of the road surface.

Not very convenient to take off and install a snorkel depending on where you're going to drive.

rover4x4
January 29th, 2004, 02:12 PM
plus they look cool

javelinadave
January 29th, 2004, 03:19 PM
Ditto's on the looking cool!

mikeslandrover
January 29th, 2004, 03:44 PM
They don't look so cool when they're all bent out of shape having hung up on a low branch. Very good for deep water though. I've nearly killed my tdi twice now when the water suddenly got very VERY deep unexpectedly. Water comming out the heater vents deep:eek:
They do restrict power on tdi's though.
Thought I'd provoke some comment with my first post:grin
By the way 2 cm of snow brought southern England to a halt yesterday, except for Land Rovers of course. Some people just shouldn't be alowed out when the weather's bad. Blocking up the roads with abandoned cars:pissed

Mike Hippert
January 29th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Hey! Mine is all bent out of shape having hung up on a low branch. Most people don't notice it is all beat up until I piont it out, in fact they look at it and think its very cool:cool: , and ask how deep I'v been in water.

Oh and too comment on the frist post, I think they let in cooler air from outside the engine compartment so it increases POWER!:grin

Oh and if the snow is deep enough you should be able to get over those abandoned cars on the road or at leats push them out of the way.:zpimp

wicks
January 29th, 2004, 05:31 PM
You're supposed to put the two wading plugs in before deep wading also. The rear diff usually takes on water cuz the breather for it is low under the truck in the rear. You can just change the oil in there after the occaisional wading excursion.

Definitely great for engine in dusty scenarios. TONS of dust on filters because it blows around under the hood and gets all caught up. That's the main reason I just ordered a Mantec intake from RN on sale for $359.

mikeslandrover
January 29th, 2004, 06:00 PM
I'll go with you on the cool air thought. Tdi's suck air from outside the engine compartment as standard:grin

mikeslandrover
January 29th, 2004, 06:03 PM
Wading like this???

DJ Menasco
January 29th, 2004, 06:10 PM
That's not wading....that's swimming!

rover4x4
January 29th, 2004, 07:45 PM
n-m

sherpamike
January 29th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Wicks,

Sorry to go off on a tangent here, and it might be a stupid question, but where are the two wading plugs? I know about the one plug that fits between the tranny and the motor. Where does the other plug go?
Thanks for your patience,
Mike

Tawayama
January 29th, 2004, 10:43 PM
Hehe, he said tranny.

I have a Donaldson pre-cleaner on the top of the Safari snorkel on the CrewCab. If you're going to run a snorkel at least get some kind of pre-cleaner too. You're missing out on half the point of running a snorkel if you don't IMO.

Mike Hippert
January 30th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Maybe not that deep but it was with a V8.:grin

dmarchand
January 30th, 2004, 08:48 AM
From the same trip... :grin

But their is a big difference between wading and having forward momentum, and being stuck as water fills your engine compartment (or seatboxes).

DJ Menasco
January 30th, 2004, 12:49 PM
Hey Mike

Here's some information pertaining to the wading plugs (http://www.d-90.com/faq/Trans/TransClutch.html#Wade). I got this off the FAQ, but Jamie has some pretty good insight as to the location of the plug.

DJ

Cube II
January 31st, 2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Tawayama
I have a Donaldson pre-cleaner on the top of the Safari snorkel

Hi,some thoughts about it?
I read that precleaner works properly @ a certain minimum of rpm or Km/h to keep it running and doing centrifugal action...
:confused

I also know that Safari makes a Mantec lookalike,which I'm gonna order before the summer so I'll be able to swap the air ram with it
and avoid even more dust...

What do you think?

P.S.
I have friends who got Donaldson on their trucks,but they're Toyota HDJ 80 4.0 (erk!) and do saharian tracks most of their time...
:rolleyes

wicks
February 3rd, 2004, 02:00 AM
The Mantec kit doesn't have a "pre-cleaner" built into the top?

Cube II
February 3rd, 2004, 12:55 PM
In the "mushroom" top there's a...uhm...fan?
Which,spinning,pushes the dust outta the top via two cuts
(centrifugal action).

I just hope the Safari one has the same device,'cos I'm not sure
(but I think it's a "NO!") they have the same diameter,in which case I could swap with the Mantec top...

:confused

chrisvonc
February 3rd, 2004, 02:16 PM
The mantec defender kit does not have a pre-cleaner and still relys on you retaining the stock cleaner. John Lee from EE has a great write up on their site about how he cut out the stock cleaner and added a K&N cleaner in the snorkel itself. I dont have the link handy at the moment but if someone finds it, feel free to post it.

rover4x4
February 3rd, 2004, 03:15 PM
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/D90snorkel/