ECR LED Group-Buy

[JimC]

Now I'm really a group-buy whore. Nevertheless, here's the deal.

ECR has the LED lamps in stock now, and we can organize a group-buy to get a discount. Exactly what that discount is, I'm not sure, but the larger the order, the greater the savings.

Right now they dont have the stuff in for the 94's and 110's yet (unless you want to convert to round 95+ style lights) but they will be arriving at some point.

Below are the kits and price-list from ECR, also dont fail to check out their web-page listing the features and pictures of the LED's:

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/LED.html

ECR LED tail lamp prices for 1995 and 1997 NAS Defender 90:

DIY wiring LED KIT
2 red stop/tail lamps
2 amber turn signal
$250.

DIY wiring LED KIT with Reverse
2 red stop/tail lamps
2 amber turn signal
1 clear reverse lamp
$475.

Plug and Play LED KIT
2 red stop/tail lamps
2 amber turn signal
$350.

Plug and Play LED KIT with Reverse
2 red stop/tail lamps
2 amber turn signal
1 clear reverse lamp
$575.

Plug and Play Deluxe LED KIT with Reverse (does front turn signals too)
2 red stop/tail lamps
4 amber turn signals
1 clear reverse lamp
$750.

Flasher unit for LED lamps
$15.

[rover4x4]

maybe ECR would just offer a discount to www.d-90.com members. Like in the "specials" section.

[trislerjw]

Mike emailed me those prices, they sure would look nice.

Unfortunately I do not use any other color for those size lights other than red. I run 5 red on the rear, and the turn signals up front (big lower ones) red as well, Hopefully I can be accomodated.

[evilfij]

All red. That is so illegal . . .

[trislerjw]

All red. That is so illegal . . .well...lol, it looks cool... and they all work!!
I'll get some pics this weekend and post it in "picures of rovers thread"

-J

[ECR]

The group buy can offer a better deal than a discount for list members because someone else handles the group buy (JimC). He gets the total, deals with the shipping, etc. He collects all the data, places on large order for lights, all we have to do is put the lights in a box and send them to him, then he arrnages the rest.
That makes our part of the transaction very simple and therefore we can offer a much better price as we do not have to make much money to cover the transaction. The bigger the order, the bigger the discount.

As for "all red lamps". That will be no issue as JimC will just be ordering in bulk and he can place the correct order so that your needs can be handled.

What we are offering for the group buy is any of the DIY lamps. The Plug and Play units are not available for the group buy. Just give JimC the total number of lamps you want (2 red, 2 amber or 4 red, whatever).

Discounts depend on the final number ordered, but look to 20% and up if a min. can be met.

We are doing this to get a new product out into the public and I wanted to offer it only to list members.
This will be a one time thing on this product.
My plan is do offer this type of thing with each new proiduct we offer. This is the first.

[evilfij]

JimC group buy whore :-)

[trislerjw]

The group buy can offer a better deal than a discount for list members because someone else handles the group buy (JimC). He gets the total, deals with the shipping, etc. He collects all the data, places on large order for lights, all we have to do is put the lights in a box and send them to him, then he arrnages the rest.
That makes our part of the transaction very simple and therefore we can offer a much better price as we do not have to make much money to cover the transaction. The bigger the order, the bigger the discount.

As for "all red lamps". That will be no issue as JimC will just be ordering in bulk and he can place the correct order so that your needs can be handled.

What we are offering for the group buy is any of the DIY lamps. The Plug and Play units are not available for the group buy. Just give JimC the total number of lamps you want (2 red, 2 amber or 4 red, whatever).

Discounts depend on the final number ordered, but look to 20% and up if a min. can be met.

We are doing this to get a new product out into the public and I wanted to offer it only to list members.
This will be a one time thing on this product.
My plan is do offer this type of thing with each new proiduct we offer. This is the first.Mike, will the rear ones work on the front as well? (for a 97 st) they look identical...

-J

[ECR]

Mike, will the rear ones work on the front as well? (for a 97 st) they look identical...

-J

The LED lamps are direct replacements for the factory parts. The reason we don't really push changing the front amber turn signals tro LED is that those lights don't have as many corrosion issues as the rears. Customer can do the fronts if they like though, due to cost we usually just do LED in the rear, but they will fit.

[themaxx]

Mike,

Is there anything special that needs to be done to convert from the Square style to the Round LEDs? (I like the round style)

[Trevor Tarr]

Mike, do/will you offer an LED replacement for the rectangular side marker lights? (Those go out the most often on my truck.) Thanks!

[ECR]

Mike,

Is there anything special that needs to be done to convert from the Square style to the Round LEDs? (I like the round style)

Nothing speacial in the wiring, but you will need to check that the 1994 holes in the body are covered by the 97 style black plastic housings. We haven't done that convesrion yet so I don't have first hand knowledge of if the new plinths cover the old holes.

Follow-up Post:

Mike, do/will you offer an LED replacement for the rectangular side marker lights? (Those go out the most often on my truck.) Thanks!

Nothing yet on those, but we'll look into it.
If you clean the connections with a file and then fill the base with dilectric grease when you put a new bulb in they will last a good long time.

[draaronr]

Okay I might be in, but if the plug and play are not available for the deal, what do you get and what needs to be done?

[ECR]

Okay I might be in, but if the plug and play are not available for the deal, what do you get and what needs to be done?

You get LED lamp units with wires coming out of them. Then you connect these wires to your trucks wiring however you desire.

[draaronr]

DIY wiring LED KIT with Reverse
2 red stop/tail lamps
2 amber turn signal
1 clear reverse lamp
two front turn signals as amber,

if I get this, how many flasher units would I need?

[flippedrover]

What's the time frame on the '94 style?

[JimC]

So far we are at:

11 Reds
16 Ambers
6 Clears
6 Relays

And I'll order an extra set if I have to in order to get the ball rolling.

[ECR]

DIY wiring LED KIT with Reverse
2 red stop/tail lamps
2 amber turn signal
1 clear reverse lamp
two front turn signals as amber,

if I get this, how many flasher units would I need?


1 flasher unit does the vehicle.
The flasher unit is a direct replacement for the one already in your truck. Unplug it and plug this one in and the LED units will flash at the correct rate. Without it they will flash too quickly.

Follow-up Post:

What's the time frame on the '94 style?


About 2 weeks and I will have the first sets. Then we will check if there are any fit issues or other problems.

[JimC]

Now we are at:

15 Reds
20 Ambers
6 Clears
7 Relays

Also, for those of you who are not splicing inclined, I can get you pigtails and render these "DIY" lights into "plug and play" ones. Obviously there will be cost for the parts, but I'll do it for free and wont make any money off it.

[Defender50th]

Where is the flash unit on your 97 auto trucks?
If its like my UK 50th LE which is like a 97 SW, its behind a metal plate behind the fuses. So when i swaped to LED bulbs a i had to remove the NAS tunnel to get access to the relay.

Regards

James

[themaxx]

About 2 weeks and I will have the first sets. Then we will check if there are any fit issues or other problems.
How does this effect the group by, if I was decided to go this route?

[ECR]

Where is the flash unit on your 97 auto trucks?
If its like my UK 50th LE which is like a 97 SW, its behind a metal plate behind the fuses. So when i swaped to LED bulbs a i had to remove the NAS tunnel to get access to the relay.

Regards

James


Yup, the flasher unit is in the same location on all NAS Defenders. Just to the left of the interior fuse panel and behind the metal plate, right next to the wiper delay relay. Easy in a manual car, but means center console removal in a 97 (auto).

Follow-up Post:

How does this effect the group by, if I was decided to go this route?

There will be the possibility of another group buy available when the 1993-1994 units come out, if someone want to organize it. JimC might be pretty sick of this by then.
:) :)

[trislerjw]

Now we are at:

15 Reds
20 Ambers
6 Clears
7 Relays

Also, for those of you who are not splicing inclined, I can get you pigtails and render these "DIY" lights into "plug and play" ones. Obviously there will be cost for the parts, but I'll do it for free and wont make any money off it.yes, that sounds good, got an estimate for cost?

[JimC]

Also, for those of you who are not splicing inclined, I can get you pigtails and render these "DIY" lights into "plug and play" ones. Obviously there will be cost for the parts, but I'll do it for free and wont make any money off it.

I dont know about the cost, the connectors can be sourced from the UK, but I'll have to research the part numbers. Mike at ECR might let me get off easy and just tell me if he knows. I'm guessing I can get the stuff from a place called Wiring Products IIRC.

[JimC]

We're up to:

17 Reds
24 Ambers
7 Clears
8 Relays

[ECR]

Just sent JimC the price list. There are currently enough orders to get to the lowest price point.
Send a PM to JimC for the prices. They will not be publicly posted.

Wednesday Nov. 1st is the cut off for the group buy, so get your orders to JimC before then or you will miss out on this group buy.

There will be some minor shipping costs on top of this, but just UPS changers, no handling charges or anything extra on our end.

If you want to ckeck to see if this is a good deal you can go to this site.
http://www.europaspares.com
They sell the inferior Perei units (ECR sells RubboLite units) and if you bought them in the UK you would pay:
S/T: $76
Turn: $88
Before shipping.

Remember Nov 1st is the cut off date for the group buy and you must prove to JimC that you are a member of this D90 forum to obtain the group buy prices.
Thanks!

[Rod Hayward]

I haven't PM'd Jim yet for pricing. There appears to be a great difference in price for the clear lens bulb. Is it just that the bulb is more expensive or is there more to it than that?

Thanks

[themaxx]

I haven't PM'd Jim yet for pricing. There appears to be a great difference in price for the clear lens bulb. Is it just that the bulb is more expensive or is there more to it than that?

Thanks
Hey Rod, from another post...

Red and amber are easy and cheap to make, clear ones are a fairly recent development and require a more expensive material.The clear ones have larger LEDs in them as well. Like Jim said, looks more costly to produce.

[Rod Hayward]

Hey, thanks Ade! I don't know how I missed that. :confused

[ECR]

What does the text in that avatar say???

[Rod Hayward]

Picture of the world's worst hunting dog, ever.

:demented

[ECR]

Thats a great picture. :) :) :)

[Rod Hayward]

My bad, Mike.
I pulled it up to e-mail it to you and was able to read it correctly.

"Winner of the worlds worst hunting dog award"

[dmarchand]

You might as well get some better connectors that actually seal against the elements.

Maybe the GM weatherpacs?

[trislerjw]

All red. That is so illegal . . .here they are..

[JimC]

You might as well get some better connectors that actually seal against the elements.

Maybe the GM weatherpacs?


I figure I'll find the standard OEM style ones for those who want them, and otherwise people can source their own. I certainly agree that there are better connectors out there.

[JimC]

So far this is what I have - Please:
1) check that this is correct
2) EMAIL ME so that can capture your email address
3) give me your complete shipping info including contact phone number

Paypal is going to be the easiest way to pay me, but I cant afford to eat the paypal fees, so you'll need to add 3% if paying by paypal. For this much stuff I need to go buy some boxes and packing material, so I'll need to spend a few bucks for that too. There will also be a shipping charge from ECR to me, but divided 10 ways will be pretty small. I estimate the extra expenses over the cost of the lights will be about 20-25 bucks including shipping to your door.

I still dont know about the connectors, but hope to find out this week.

UserName Name Red/Amber/Clear/Flasher Unit
97D90 Andrew Walcker 2 2 1 1
GliderKing Robert Bingham 5 8 2 2
Gkase George Kase 2 2 0 1
Joe P Joe Pfeiffer 2 2 1 1
Rod Hayward Rod Hayward 2 4 1 1
themaxx Ade 2 2 1 1
Troys Troy Smith 2 4 1 1
dmarchand David Marchand 2 2 1 1
whtd90 James Chan 2 2 1 1
sflash868 2 2 1 1
trislerjw Jason Trisler 5 0 0 1
draaronr Aaron Richardet 2 4 1 1
JimC 2 2 1 1

[draaronr]

emailed you.

[dmarchand]

Email sent. Thanks Jim.

[JimC]

Will people not PM me please? Its all full up (max 40 messages) and I can't stay on top of it.

jimcheney(at)hotmail.com is better.

[JimC]

This is the last day to get in on the group buy - I'll tally everything up at the end of the day

[MattGuyver_007]

Is it too late for me to order a set for my 95 ST?

Thanks!

[JimC]

Nope, I'll add you in.

[4x4sche]

I need a set for my 97,two red, two orange, one white and the flasher.

John

[JimC]

OK, I've got the figures together and all the involved parties should have a spreadsheet in their in-boxes. Please let me know if you notice this and didn't receive something.

[chrisvonc]

Moving this over to the Vendors Loft.

[ECR]

For those with 97 D90s that asked we just posted instructions for changing the flasher relay in a 1997 NAS D90
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/LEDflasher.html

Thanks

[trislerjw]

Any news on the progress?
I know you are busy..
thanks
-Jason

[JimC]

Still waiting on money from some people. Also, many sent checks, so they only a couple have arrived.

[Neil McCauley]

(Still waiting for the 94' set up) :grin

Neil

[ECR]

(Still waiting for the 94' set up) :grin

Neil


1993-1994 stop turn units have arrived. Still waiting on the 1993-1994 turn signals. Should be next week.
The first set will be going on this 110 as soon as they arrive if you want a look-see:

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/161.html

[ini88]

ah man i want those LCDs for my 94! will you have the clear reverse light in too? wasn't there some issure with cost efficiency with the clear ones?

[ECR]

ah man i want those LCDs for my 94! will you have the clear reverse light in too? wasn't there some issure with cost efficiency with the clear ones?

We will have LED units for stop/tail and turn signals on the 1993-1994s but no reverse units are in currently available for the 1993-1994.

[D901619]

can i still get in the group buy?. 1997 d90

[ECR]

We will have LED units for stop/tail and turn signals on the 1993-1994s but no reverse units are in currently available for the 1993-1994.

Sorry to report that as of today there will be no 1993-1994 style LED units unless you run a 24 volt truck (not likely).

Follow-up Post:

can i still get in the group buy?. 1997 d90


Sorry, the group buy was closed November 1st.

[97D90]

Mike-


I haven't got my lights yet, but wanted to say thanks for hooking us up w/ the group buy. Really appreciate your support of Defender!

[ECR]

First batch of lights leaves today. Remainder when inventory re-order comes in. Jim had to wait for payments on some orders so that meant we couldn't jump on sending out the complete order on Nov 1st as I thought. The complete order was just placed a few days ago, but everything will head out to Jim asap.
Thanks,

[flippedrover]

How much cutting is involved in going from the '94 style to the '95?

[BarryO]

Mike,

According to your website, you are out of stock on the LED lights. Any idea when you'll get some in (2 reds and 2 ambers for a 97)?

I'm am so fed up with these things going out.

[rover4x4]

Tyler i just think you would have to change the "plinthe" I dont think any cutting would be needed?

[ECR]

Just FYI, the lamps to complete the group buy order finally arrived today (thanks holiday slow down) and they are headed out to Jim today.
Thanks all and enjoy your lamps!

[Joe P]

Hey Jim, any word on when these will ship out

Thanks

[BarryO]

Just FYI, the lamps to complete the group buy order finally arrived today (thanks holiday slow down) and they are headed out to Jim today.
Thanks all and enjoy your lamps!

So for those of us that missed the group buy, when can we order them from you directly?

--Barry

[ECR]

Yup, as soon as they are back in stock you can order.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/LED.html

As many as I order they sell out just as quick as I can get them in. I've ordered a double batch this time to try and keep up with demand.
Drop and email to ECR with your needs and we will alert you when they are in stock, prices are on the site.